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thoughts on this install?

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by JF123, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. JF123

    JF123 New Member

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    2 story house. 1100 sq ft downstairs. 500 sq ft upstairs. Downstairs ceilings are 7 ft. Upstairs are either the same or lower. Fairly open plan.

    We have a pretty modern oil furnace with forced hot water that we know we'll have to use, but we'd prefer wood as much as possible.

    The idea is to put a half wall behind the stove (see last couple pics for details).

    Thinking about a Timberwolf 2100 or 2200, for the easy clearances, low cost, decent reviews and decent looks. Aesthetics are important to the wife.

    Let me know if there's any additional info that might be helpful. Thanks very much for any/all input.

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  2. zzr7ky

    zzr7ky Minister of Fire

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    I don't see why not. You didn't say what part of the country but I'd get a stove that's large enough to give the heat and burn time that you want. Start laying in a supply of wood now ; )
    ATB,
    Mike
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    JF123 New Member

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    If I want to be able to use that upstairs closet as my chase, I need to keep the stove as close to that rear wall (the one the TV is against) as possible. Any thoughts on other stoves that allow for a clearance in the 18" or less range, from the rear wall?

    I've got some decently seasoned silber maple now, but this will realistically be more for the 2013-14 winter and beyond, probably.
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    Anyone have any recommendations for a dealer/installer in the Southern NH area? Wouldn't necessarily need to be done this season. I'd be willing to wait until the slow time of year, to get with someone highly recommended. Thanks again.
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    rideau Minister of Fire

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    Woodstock stoves. In NH. You might visit their store...direct seller.
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    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    The 2100 is a 1.5 cu ft stove. That is a small stove and will not heat 1,600 sq ft. The 2200 is 1.9 cu ft. a little larger, but I would look at something in the 2 cu ft range for better heating capacity and longer burns.

    Something like the Napoleon 1450 at 2.25 cu ft, the Drolet Classic at 2.2 cu ft, Woodstock fireview at 2.2 cu ft, or the Pacific Energy Super which is 2 cu ft, but it will still provide longer burns than the Timberwolf.

    Of those mentioned, the Fireview will probably provide the longest burns.
  7. JF123

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    I think soapstone is out, as I've got weight constraints due to the construction of the house.

    I'm OK with not being able to heat the entire living area with the stove. Two of the three upstairs bedrooms are closed off 99% of the time, and don't need to be heated. Realistically, the square footage I'll be heating regularly will be closer to 1300 square feet. Do you still think the Timberwolfs would be underpowered?
  8. begreen

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    Agreed about getting the larger Timberwolf. You will appreciate the longer burn times. Would it be possible to move all the stereo equipment and put the hearth against the wall instead of out in the open? The stove pipe connector can be offset if necessary.

    Note that the pipe will need to be enclosed in a chase on the second floor.
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    Thanks for the additional input.

    The stereo stuff will be going. The reason I was thinking of that exact location was mostly because I figured it would mean that the chmney would be a straight shot, up through the closet, and then up through the dormer. My thought was that I would permanently retire the closet and screw the door closed, using it as the chase. It's pretty small and useless, in its current state.

    If I move the stove to the right, then I definitely need to build a separate chase, and if I go perfectly vertical with the pipe, the chimney ends up coming out of the roof next to the dormer, resulting in more visible exterior chimney.

    I can do the carpentry work. Not sure how confident I am about the chimney itself. Never done anything like it. This is sort of a learning experience for me, so any criticism of my ideas here is more than welcome. Thanks again.
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    Your location would work, though the stove might look a bit awkward there. Would it be possible to extend the current little wall behind the stereo to behind that stove location without seriously impacting traffic patterns? That would make it look more intentional.

    Check with your local inspecting authority about the idea of turning the closet into a chase. I don't think that is going to fly. It may work for you in the short term, but what if you sell the house and the next owner wants to use the closet? I'd plan on making a chase even if in the closet. It's pretty simple and much more legal.
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    Definitely planning to extend that wall behind the stove. I should've made that more clear. I'm thinking half-wall...about waist height...something that will make things look "cleaner", but will still allow line of sight to the windows that are behind the stove location; keep the house as open as possible.

    I've got my building permit all filled out, and I just need to go down to get the paperwork. I guess I'll bring some of these pictures with me and see if I can get his thoughts on the closet-turned-chase idea. Worst case scenario, I might just remove the closet completely, put in a proper chase, and then do a closet that fits the resulting space a little better.

    Am I right in my thinking that keeping the chimney perfectly straight would make life much easier on the install (and maybe subsequently with the draft)?
  12. ColdNH

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    I have had Matt @ black moose chimney do both of my past installs, He is a regular on this forum. He is based in southern NH

    My first stove I got on clearance from fireplace village in Bedford, the Oslo I got off a fellow hearth.com member
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    Not a building inspector but I've done 40 years of home renovations. Retiring the closet MIGHT work, but screwing the door shut wouldn't. At a minimum remove the door and insulate/shield/drywall the opening.

    Picture what would happen if, after you move out some bozo unscrewed the door and squeezed his holiday ornaments and spare clothes in there, not knowing any better.
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    Yes, definitely right.
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    Thanks very much for all the suggestions and answers. Much appreciated. Now to get to work!

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