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  1. JohnnyRingo2007

    JohnnyRingo2007 New Member

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    I am sure this has been discussed before but I couldn't find it. Does anyone know of a list anywhere that has all the major stove makers and where their stoves are made? I know some websites tell this info but some its hard to find. I can't find where BKs king and princess is made at. Their may not be a list but I thought I would try. Thanks.

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  2. Slow1

    Slow1 Minister of Fire

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    I'm not familiar with such a list, but it may be interesting to know. Obviously WS stove are made/assembled in the US, but I believe the stone is from Canada and the castings come from somewhere in Europe (?).
  3. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    BK is made in Walla Walla Washington.
  4. JohnnyRingo2007

    JohnnyRingo2007 New Member

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    Not that I have anything against the stoves made else where but I like to try and spend my money where I earned it. I really like PH and I knew that it was US made but the long burn times during fall and spring with the BKs would be nice as well so I am glad to hear that they are made in Washington. Thanks for the info.
  5. Woody Stover

    Woody Stover Minister of Fire

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    The Woodstocks will also go really long with the air cut way back.
    I copied this from a thread a while back, but never vetted the info. You have only mentioned cat stoves so far; I think the Lopi Cape Cod and some of the Bucks are the only cat stoves on this list...
    "made inUS (ie: Englander, Buck, Lopi, Avalon, Quadrafire)
    Canada (Regency, Pacific Energy, Osburn, Drolet, Napoleon, etc.)"

    If you're in the market for a stove, you need to first determine the output needed to heat your space, layout, etc. Then you can pick from the stoves that will meet those requirements.
  6. mellow

    mellow Resident Stove Connoisseur

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    Plenty of USA made stoves out there, not as easy as some things to make overseas and have shipped here and certified with the EPA. Weight plays a part of that as well.
  7. JohnnyRingo2007

    JohnnyRingo2007 New Member

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    Hey Woody, you said the PH has long burn times when you cut the air down. How long of times have u experienced or heard of? Is it comparable to the BKs?
    Thanks
  8. Backwoods Savage

    Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

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    Johnny, we do know 16 hour burns by many have been the normal. I think they have came up with longer burn times at the factory but the question is, "Can the average homeowner get these burn times?"

    In addition, you need to put as much thought into the wood as the stove. What good is a long burn time that is a possibility if someone tries to get it with poor fuel? We see that a lot. Even with the smaller stoves. Like our Fireview. It is easy to get 12 hours from it and we've gotten longer times while we also know of some who claimed to get only 6 hours. That time difference is simply because of the fuel as they were the same stove.
  9. Treacherous

    Treacherous Minister of Fire

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    Some others made in Washington State:

    • Travis Industries (Avalon /Lopi / FireplaceXtrordinair)

    • Quadrafire

    • Lennox (old Country Line)

    Please correct me on these if any are wrong.
  10. firefighterjake

    firefighterjake Minister of Fire

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    From what I remember the cast iron Jotuls are assembled here in the U.S. . . . and for some reason I was thinking the steel stoves (Rangeley and its brother stove) were made here in the U.S. . . . but I could be wrong.
  11. bag of hammers

    bag of hammers Minister of Fire

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    Didn't Kuma Woodstoves show up in some recent threads here - I believe a US mfg and some pretty positive reviews if my fuzzy memory is correct...? fwiw...
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    KaptJaq Minister of Fire

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    For a while Jotul was also outsourcing some of its casting to a US foundry. Not sure if they still do?

    KaptJaq
  13. JohnnyRingo2007

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    Thanks everyone for the info. A lot of the stoves mentioned I knew nothing about so I have got some research to do! I think my wife thinks my researching has started becoming an obsession instead of a hobby. I just don't want to end up with something I am unhappy with because of failure to ask questions. Thanks
  14. Highbeam

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    On the BK princess model, I do believe that it is actually made in Canada but the king in WA. It is an american company though and in this international economy that is a great start. As far as burn times, nothing comes close to the BK. All other stoves burn less hours by half. That is, BK gets you twice as much time per load compared to the next best competitor. That's a really important factor. If you want lower burn times you can load less wood into the BK or crank up the output. The company rates the princess for 30+ hours and almost all of the members here can verify it.

    You seem interested in cat stoves. All current cat stoves are made in the usa. Most non-cat brands are also american. There are often parts and pieces imported like cats, firebricks, paint, castings, but assembled in the US. I'm too young to think that this the most important factor in stove selection but in the case of stoves, made in the USA is still alive.
  15. downeast

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    " and, honey, I will love you in the morning." ::P

    Let's go easy on the love of our own appliance HB, and look at some realworld BTU output facts. We need heat/BTUs, not "time per load".

    Though there is plenty to dislike, even hate, about my VC Encore cat ( 2001 vintage), it will "hold" a fire in this northern Maine winter for well over 24 hours.
    This "long burn" is just a low red coaling of the wood. Little real heat comes from this. Not enough to heat anything in a average winter day here well below
    20 ::F. What allows a low, cool fire is the combination of the cat lighting off, the thermostatic primary air control, and an auto thermostatic ( coil) secondary air.
    This is what ANY well engineered cat wood stove with thermostatic coil controls would do. No magic. BK stoves are much better designed than the complex
    highly developed VC cat stoves that pioneered efficient, clean burning products. No magic, just good design.

    BK has great stoves, butt they ain't Krypton Lois. ( Besides, the Admiral thinks they're ugly. () )

    Repeat: BTU science has to do with the ::DT of needed BTU output. Going up from your average mild winter temps in the 40's, or even up from your furnace/electric baseboards @ 65 ::F to room temp is
    a world distant from northern temperate winter temps averaging well below 32 ::F.

    JMNSHO
  16. begreen

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    Regency is made close to WA state, in Delta, BC. They're Canadian, like PE, Napoleon and SBI stoves (Osburn, Drolet, etc.). The Canadians make some very fine stoves.
    bag of hammers and etiger2007 like this.
  17. Highbeam

    Highbeam Minister of Fire

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    Actually, no. I am more interested in time per load. The btus per load is how you size your stove before you start. 24 hours from a VC eh? That's a first and only I've ever heard of.
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    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    You too huh?
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    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    The Jotuls are assembled in the States but one source tells me that they don't get castings from Vermont Castings in Vermont anymore like they did for a while.
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    yes, family owned and operated in Idaho, nice stoves!
  22. downeast

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    You boys need to read...closely. Very closely, especially the B². BTUs are what you get as heat, such as : warmth, ( fill in synonym here____ ). ( Kindly Google "BTU" )

    Now to the reading: any wood device that burns with an adjustable, primary air that can be shut near down will keep good hardwood glowing ( that's coals ) for a long, long time.
    Now dear readers and you two doubties, those glowing red coals may not produce those wondrous BTUs ( see "heat" ), but it is a "fire" according to those above doubties.

    Question for the BK (and B² ) lovers: How much heat ( BTUs :rolleyes: ) does that BK produce after the "30 hour burn time" with the one and only load ? Got heat ?

    Now dear readers, BTUs are real measurements of produced heat. If a loner off in the ether believes that "btus per load" is only for sizing, there is a lovely bridge for sale in Brooklyn. Or, "I will love you in the morning dear. "
    Or, "the check is in the mail." Or.....

    So back to Earth boys: have either of you actually used the VC Encore ? Really really seen one in use and received those BTUs ? Curious minds want to know. !!! Me too....huh.

    Update for the High and B²: the flue needed its annual brushing today. Since it was chilly ( 37 ::F ) YESTERDAY morning @ 0530 , we loaded the Encore about 2/3 with Red/Soft Maple for a quick, warmup heating.
    After the usual cat steps--ignite, let the fire roar, drop the cat bypass, let the stove get back up to temps, then drop air all the way down ( near zero air ). At 0730 this morning the stove was warm, the 3 splits were coaled red.
    Opened the cat bypass and primary air to burn out the load. Climbed the roof @ 1230, after the flue and stove cooled for the flue haircut. CAN YOU BELIEVE ? Mirabile dictu.

    No carbons were destroyed in this stated burn or message.

    JMNSHO
  23. Ram 1500 with an axe...

    Ram 1500 with an axe... Minister of Fire

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    VC baby...
  24. alforit

    alforit Feeling the Heat

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    And I thought Highbeam was in was in love with his stove .......But this is just plain pornographic
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  25. downeast

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    OK OK ...someof you just infer, project, get worked up about nothing.
    It's read time chillies.
    No stove porn Al, Mr. High and the usual B² . Said many many many many times before: VC stoves were and are a PITA to maintain. Repeat. Rinse. Repeat.
    IF AND ONLY IF the owner is able and willing to do the maintenance, AND the VC stoves operate well, they do a fine job. Got it ?
    Some of the sex-starved here need to get a life. Or something. Why are these sillies coming from warm places --N.J. PNW, VA--, not real temperate ?
    ( Don't tell anyone, a wood stove is not to love or sleep with....it is for heat. Unlike some of the BK enthusiasts with their 90 hour burns. :ZZZ )

    Whew. Now, let me tell you about my Oslo..........or the Tempwood........or the Snorkel Stove.......or, the old 602 in the sauna,......................I'm in love.........

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