So, I've gone thru two SuperCedars now, meaning I've started 7 fires (one early attempt took two quarters). I find that with the constant ash bed in my stove, simply putting a SC on the floor of the stove and then putting kindling atop it does not work... the SC sinks into the ash and does not burn well. More recently, I've used my shovel to scrape a well in the ash bed, so I can place the SC down in the well. The surrounding ash supports the kindling above the SC, and it works pretty well, except I'm exposing the center of my floor grate with each new fire. Not sure if that's good or bad, but Jotul does recommend keeping at least 1" ash on top of the grate for regular use. How do the rest of you use these things? Still seems to me that a few rolled up sheets of newspaper is a heck of a lot simpler, but I'm giving this a try (well 400 tries, I bought the 100 pack).