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  1. djs_net Member

    joined: Nov 25, 2011
    178 posts
    CT
    I now regret using the word unethical in the thread title, I would be in favor of a mod changing the title. I hope the thread itself doesn't get deleted because I'm interested in the story (as a cutomer of both the manufacturer and dealer). It may come down to something as simple as a dispute over money (likely) but I think it's a fair question that I posted.
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  2. hotdawg Member

    joined: Nov 3, 2011
    197 posts
    Central, MA
    Nah, keep it! It's interesting to read about. Plus, the dealer started this whole war of words. What good could have come from their decision to post such a statement on their website? Not just once but several times in bold and color! It really makes them look bad (the dealer) and they started it. I wouldn't want to do business with a dealer like that. My favorite is the "discount" given on all the pellets he have in stock. A whole ONE DOLLAR each ton! LOL. That's great.
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  3. oldmountvernon Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2011
    2,157 posts
    SE Mass
    The only problem with the thread is the jerk posting that on his website is winning by getting exposure. But it does sound like a personal slam to me and he is only hurting themselves
  4. P38X2 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 11, 2012
    784 posts
    Jaffrey, NH
    Djs_net, you shouldn't have regrets, IMO. Your thread title is clearly benign. This is a discussion forum and while we probably don't wanna post libelous comments, we can speculate all we want about the topic at hand. There's perhaps one questionable post in the thread but otherwise we're all just StS about one of our favorite hobbies.

    I'm certain it wasn't your intention to draw any negative attention to either party and that's clearly evident in your posts.

    Jeez, its OK guys n gals. Just watch what you say, grab some beer n pellets and relax.
  5. hotdawg Member

    joined: Nov 3, 2011
    197 posts
    Central, MA
    It's true he is getting exposure but I don't think it's in a good way. I hope it makes people think twice before ordering from them. I know I wouldn't. Not good to run your business that way.
  6. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,439 posts
    Standish, ME
    No need to delete this thread at all. Maybe it will stop people from believing everything said on the interwebby is gospel.
  7. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,723 posts
    Northwestern CT.
    Haven't you seen the commercial. Everything on the internet is true, Right? :p

    As long as no bashing begins, This thread should ride. I personally would like to here VMP's side. But we probably won't hear anything.
    SmokeyTheBear and oldmountvernon like this.
  8. whlago Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 30, 2011
    250 posts
    NW Connecticut
    shhhhhhhh.....don't tell anyone about that $1 per ton deep discount.......best kept secret :rolleyes:
  9. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,439 posts
    Standish, ME
    Bon jour
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  10. LMPS Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 12, 2010
    320 posts
    Coastal, Maine
    The problem I see is that I doubt either party will make any statement on this board nor do I suspect VMP's will discuss this with anyone and thus we will all be left to speculate and wonder what happened. The most we may get is some second hand information or one side of the story from the dealer.
  11. fmsm Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 12, 2011
    299 posts
    South of Boston MA
    I tried to call the dealer and received an answering machine asking me to email him.... That is shady right there! A business that does not answer their phone......
  12. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,439 posts
    Standish, ME
  13. djs_net Member

    joined: Nov 25, 2011
    178 posts
    CT
    I've bought pellets from this dealer, he's pretty much a one man show so I'm not suprised that he doesn't answer his phone every time. Personally I wouldn't consider that shady.
  14. LMPS Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 12, 2010
    320 posts
    Coastal, Maine
    Before throwing the dealer or VMP's under the bus, I think we should all remember there are two sides to this and until which time both sides have a chance to explain themselves one can not really know who is at fault. IMHO typically there are issues on both sides.
  15. oldmountvernon Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2011
    2,157 posts
    SE Mass
    to late the dealer threw Vermont under the bus already
  16. LMPS Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 12, 2010
    320 posts
    Coastal, Maine
    True enough, just do not think we should through more pellets on the pile and light the fire before hearing from both sides. He might just have a very good reason for doing what he has done.
  17. iron stove Feeling the Heat

    joined: Sep 14, 2009
    371 posts
    Central CT
    Bought from him a few times, and met Tjakeman there the other year. That "Statement" has been up for probably a YEAR, IIRC. Havnt been back since his prices are only average. And yes, he can be tough to get ahold of, if he's out loading trucks and such.
  18. oldmountvernon Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2011
    2,157 posts
    SE Mass
    Very true, but he could of stated the reason as well. His reason could be legit, but not stating it makes him look very bad
    But like jay said, no one ever had a bad thing to say about the people at vermont, and with this dealer having troubles in the past all he did by saying his one sided slam is they wanted COD no credit , to me anyways
  19. rparker Member

    joined: Jul 17, 2011
    198 posts
    Vermont
    I have been in contact with Chris (C.E.O. of Vermont Wood Pellets) and this is a portion of his response:

    "The first I heard of this was from one of the guys in the mill who makes our pellets every day. Needless to say everybody here takes great pride in our pellets and he was not happy as were the rest of the guys. Our gut reaction was to have it out on line. We all slept on it and cooler heads prevailed this morning.
    We have worked hard to develop a really great wood pellet and a network of great local dealers who represent our product and give wonderful feedback on how we can continue to improve. I would ask that anyone reading the blog give one of our current dealers a call and ask them about our ethics.
    Thanks again,
    Chris Brooks
    CEO, Vermont Wood Pellet Company
    802-747-1093
    P.S. Please let the guys on the blog know that if they are in the Vermont area we would love to have them stop by and given the time I can show them around."

    and from Katie Adams (president) "would like to add that blakeslee is not a Vermont Wood Pellet current dealer."

    I think they have decided to take the high road and I applaud them for that.
    Think I'm going to go down and get a tour.
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  20. LMPS Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 12, 2010
    320 posts
    Coastal, Maine
    And maybe some free pellets;)
  21. oldmountvernon Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2011
    2,157 posts
    SE Mass
    " We all slept on it and cooler heads prevailed this morning "
    very professional
    Just reading that dealers line, i knew he was blowing steam and being UNprofessional
  22. fmsm Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 12, 2011
    299 posts
    South of Boston MA
    I perhaps was not clear enough, he asks that you email him. I'm sorry, if you have email you can answer a phone!
  23. smwilliamson Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 28, 2009
    2,718 posts
    Southcoast, MA
    I will add to this....this high rd approach is good for the world...however, blakeslee should cease from using trademarked names and imagery from VWP...if katie really wanted to clobber him she should file dcma take down notices with blakeslees isp for piblishing her copyrighted material....poof! Website gone....oh my...did i just say that?
  24. iron stove Feeling the Heat

    joined: Sep 14, 2009
    371 posts
    Central CT
    ROAD TRIP

    Seriously, need to get a group together from CT, and check this out !
  25. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,723 posts
    Northwestern CT.

    X2 I'm off from xmas to new years. Let me speak to the Mrs. before I get in trouble though! ;em

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