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Video trashing EPA stoves

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by precaud, Jan 1, 2011.

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  1. wkpoor Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 30, 2008
    1,843 posts
    Amanda, OH
    Don't worry BB, I will be very objective in my review and if it does fall short I'll be right up front about the fact that I bought cheapest stove I could and won't make a blanket statement that they are all bad like that guy did. Just to remind you I bought the Mag to heat one room that didn't get finished because of the economy and loosing my ass in the market so the summer kitchen is setting idle till things come back around and I feel safer in my job.
    wkpoor, Jan 2, 2011
    #26

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  2. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,925 posts
    Northern Virginia
    I am just concerned that you will be disappointed like a lot of folks are with moving from a stove they know like the back of their hand to a new one. It drove me nuts getting used to the 30 after over twenty years with my old stove. I could run that stove in my sleep. Of course my wife had to remind me that it took me two years to get comfortable with it too over twenty years ago.

    I think that Mag has the possibility of being a heat throwing son of a gun. Just takes some practice and I don't want you to get too discouraged too soon. Seems every year folks that have never burned wood come here and love the new stoves. And just as many that burned in the old ones want to take the new one to the dump too soon.

    And it would have run you out of that one room.

    Edit: Sometimes it is kinda funny to refer to them as "the new stoves" since they have all been re-burn non-cats or cat stoves since 1988.
    BrotherBart, Jan 2, 2011
    #27

  3. rdust Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 9, 2009
    3,341 posts
    Michigan
    Guy is a riot, check out his other video's. All I got is wow.....
    rdust, Jan 2, 2011
    #28

  4. cmonSTART Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 29, 2007
    2,284 posts
    Antrim, NH
    Just goes to show, you could own the best stove out there but if your wood or chimney is garbage it isn't going to do squat. The stove is only part of the equation.
    cmonSTART, Jan 2, 2011
    #29

  5. Valhalla Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 12, 2008
    880 posts
    Essex County, New York
    Unseasoned fuel! Possibly even wet, as he had splits on the stovetop.
    Valhalla, Jan 2, 2011
    #30

  6. Renovation New Member

    joined: Oct 26, 2010
    1,087 posts
    SW MI near Saugatuck
    Renovation, Jan 2, 2011
    #31

  7. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,925 posts
    Northern Virginia
    But George he, like, actually bought a stove. :coolsmirk:
    BrotherBart, Jan 2, 2011
    #32

  8. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Like Dad used to say, "The most important nut in the car is the one behind the wheel". He also used to say "A poor worker always blames his tools".
    begreen, Jan 2, 2011
    #33

  9. BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    7,103 posts
    Doylestown, PA
    The wood sitting on top of the stove seems to highlight a lot of what is wrong with that video.
    BrowningBAR, Jan 2, 2011
    #34

  10. HotCoals Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2010
    2,035 posts
    Rochester,Ny.
    It looked the flue pipe was at a 30° angle?
    HotCoals, Jan 2, 2011
    #35

  11. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,925 posts
    Northern Virginia
    I would gladly drag the old 650 pound Sierra "single wall" insert out of the back of the property and trade it for that lousy stove he has.
    BrotherBart, Jan 2, 2011
    #36

  12. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Grumpy wife at the beginning and wood sitting on the stovetop with no check marks says it all. Hope he didn't leave it on the stove overnight.
    begreen, Jan 2, 2011
    #37

  13. Black Jaque Janaviac Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 17, 2009
    440 posts
    Ouisconsin
    Sigh. . . . I wish there were more folks like that 'round these parts. All I'd hafta do is drive the neighborhoods on trash day and pick up loads of these slightly used Englanders. I'd have one for each room!
    Black Jaque Janaviac, Jan 2, 2011
    #38

  14. Renovation New Member

    joined: Oct 26, 2010
    1,087 posts
    SW MI near Saugatuck
    Boom! Headshot! :)

    I'm just a wannabe, and can only dream of the day I post my own videos of wood stacked on top of my stove while complaining that I can't make it glow.

    Ah, who am I kidding? I'll get no respect then either...
    Renovation, Jan 2, 2011
    #39

  15. dafattkidd Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 11, 2007
    1,137 posts
    Long Island, NY
    Oh man, I am still cracking up reading this one!
    dafattkidd, Jan 2, 2011
    #40

  16. boatboy63 Member

    joined: Feb 6, 2010
    187 posts
    Northeastern TN
    Leave them alone. Didn't you see where they said it was seasoned wood? Their splits are on top of the stove to season them. I would say by bedtime, they will be seasoned enough. Afterall, I did offer to trade them my Buck Stove for their old Englander.
    boatboy63, Jan 2, 2011
    #41

  17. John_M Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 10, 2008
    614 posts
    Central NY
    It is unfortunate that many viewers who watched his video may have been looking for accurate info about EPA Phase III wood stoves. They will be unaware that the person who made the video is seriously uninformed about the construction and operation of modern wood stoves and the essentials necessary for a safe and rewarding wood stove experience. Sadly, his ignorance is his bliss! :-S
    John_M, Jan 2, 2011
    #42

  18. cmonSTART Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 29, 2007
    2,284 posts
    Antrim, NH
    The wood has been down in log length for 3 years. It must be seasoned.
    cmonSTART, Jan 2, 2011
    #43

  19. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,148 posts
    Michigan
    Wow! WOW!

    Immediately when the video started I knew what this was going to be about. All I had to see was that dirty glass. Then as they zoomed out the split on top of the stove really said volumes. It is not hard to believe his ignorance though as most of us have probably seen this same attitude. Sad, but it happens.
    Backwoods Savage, Jan 2, 2011
    #44

  20. oldspark Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 16, 2010
    5,113 posts
    North West Iowa
    Not too hard to believe his ignorance, what's hard to believe is he shows it off to the world!
    oldspark, Jan 2, 2011
    #45

  21. ecocavalier02 Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 12, 2008
    1,441 posts
    ct
    Hopefully he never gets it to work right. cuz when he does all that wood on top of the stove will really heat the house nice. what an idiot specially when you have kids in the house.
    ecocavalier02, Jan 2, 2011
    #46

  22. pen Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2007
    6,069 posts
    N.E. Penna
    I tried to leave a comment and a link to my "Englander 30 Just Cruising" video, but I keep getting an error.

    Ignorance is not bliss. This proves it.

    pen
    pen, Jan 2, 2011
    #47

  23. precaud Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 20, 2006
    2,272 posts
    Sunny New Mexico
    precaud, Jan 2, 2011
    #48

  24. oldspark Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 16, 2010
    5,113 posts
    North West Iowa
    If you are stupid it is nice to know it.
    oldspark, Jan 2, 2011
    #49

  25. summit Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 22, 2008
    1,901 posts
    central maine
    wet wood = no heat!
    summit, Jan 2, 2011
    #50
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