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  1. etiger2007

    etiger2007 Minister of Fire

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    when you load up and at some point during the burn a piece of wood manages to lay against the window? I cant stand this and every time this happens and it dosent matter the stove temp I open the door and push the log off the glass. Should I just let it burn?

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  2. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    I curse at it.

    Then I walk away. It's dead to me.
  3. fossil

    fossil Accidental Moderator Staff Member

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    I just take my shovel in one hand, very carefully open the stove door with the other and get things back to the way I like to see them. I use the shovel rather than the poker in this scenario, because sometimes chunks fall onto the ash lip, and I want to scoop them back into the firebox immediately. No, I don't leave splits burning in contact with the window. Rick
  4. lopiliberty

    lopiliberty Minister of Fire

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    I have found out from experience to load this incinerator N/S instead of E/W but sometimes I find long splits, lay them to the side and when I have a full load of long ones I load the stove E/W. It never fails no matter how I load them, one always falls against the glass and as stated above I say a few choice words and try to push it back. If I had a side loader I wouldn't care about wood against the glass, but with a front loader it you just let it burn when you open the door you are going to have a pile of ash fall out of the stove and fly all over
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  5. Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle

    Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle Minister of Fire

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    I don't like firewood against the glass. I push it back with poker or shovel, and always put on my gloves before opening the door.

    You never know when some thing could roll out in that scenario.
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  6. lopiliberty

    lopiliberty Minister of Fire

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    Been there done that:eek: . I have never moved so fast in my life when a log rolled out, bounced like a rubber ball and hit the rug. I must have pulled something because the next morning I could hardly move.
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  7. firefighterjake

    firefighterjake Minister of Fire

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    If it happens right at the start of a reload or cold start I'll move it . . . especially if I have just cleaned the glass.

    Otherwise . . . meh . . . other than causing some mess on the glass by interfering with the air wash it doesn't hurt anything other than interfer with the whole feng shui in the firebox.
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  8. dorkweed

    dorkweed Guest

    Wasn't there a skit on SNL entitled................."The Anal Retentive Wood Burner?"
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  9. Cross Cut Saw

    Cross Cut Saw Feeling the Heat

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    Holy crap, nice avatar.

    Pun intended.

    It rarely happens but I just leave them, it's usually just the end or corner of a piece. If an entire piece fell against the glass I'd probably have to go in there and move it though!
  10. remkel

    remkel Minister of Fire

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    I usually speak to the offending log in stern, but polite, terms being certain to explain what it was the log did wrong and why this can never happen again in the future being certain to take the log's feedback into consideration before determining the final course of action. Then I use the log grapple I have on my hearth tool stand to gently pick up the rogue log and proceed to throw it back onto the fire damning that btu stick to the land of eternal heat.

    Or stated otherwise, I move the sucker.
  11. CT Pellet

    CT Pellet Minister of Fire

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    Idunno....all of my logs are square. They don't roll...........:p
    Sorry.
  12. BobUrban

    BobUrban Minister of Fire

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    Never had it happen. at least not a whole log. I do get bummed when I have an ash pile on the doghouse lip as it will invariably fall out onto the ash lip which is no big deal but I hate having a pile of ash on my gasket. Not sure if it is really and issue but I feel it has the chance of working it's way into the gasket and compromising the seal over time. I am careful to clean that up at cool reload times. With the cavernous fire box on this stove I can keep the wood behind the doghouse 99% of the time without loosing burn time or heat.

    I did recently have a bit of fall out when I was raking forward. A larger piece was in the back and when I pulled on my rake it came free and knocked some large coals out onto my tile floor. I just grabbed them with my gloves and tossed them back in. I use the white-ish kevlar type gloves and they don't even smolder when grabbing burning wood and they fit better than my welding gloves. With my small hands welding golves feel and work about like boxing gloves for me :)
  13. Fod01

    Fod01 Feeling the Heat

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    Depends on the size of the wood. I'll move a good size piece back in the firebox. I feel like the gas/smoke is bypassing the burn tubes otherwise, plus there won't be a ton of ash falling out the door when I open it.
  14. Jags

    Jags Moderate Moderator Staff Member

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    Andirons. Don't let it happen in the first place.:cool:
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  15. Joful

    Joful Minister of Fire

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    When it happens to me, it's 'cause I stacked way higher than the andirons.

    Unlike the rest of you, I usually have a good load of ash sitting on the ash lip. I guess I look at it like my chainsaw chaps, neither should ever appear too clean.
  16. mellow

    mellow Resident Stove Connoisseur

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    I leave it. If I was that worried about it I would just load N/S but I like my slower E/W burns.
  17. Jags

    Jags Moderate Moderator Staff Member

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    The design of the IR won't really allow that to happen unless it is a pretty small round, then I just let it burn.
  18. Joful

    Joful Minister of Fire

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    Same with my F12's, to a degree. The front opening is arched, and so as long as a round is long enough, the ends stick in the archway, even if it's stacked way above the andirons. I usually only have the problem with short rounds or uglies, thrown on top of an already large load.

    Heh... I said "short round".

    short round.jpg
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  19. ddddddden

    ddddddden Minister of Fire

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    +1 :cool:


    However, sometimes coals/chunks fall through the andirons and onto the glass; I just let it burn. If the initial impact doesn't do any damage to the glass, I don't think you need to worry about it. AFAIK, damage from heat isn't much of an issue with ceramic glass.
  20. tlc1976

    tlc1976 New Member

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    I always load it N-S but still sometimes get a piece against the glass. So yes it is a bit irritating but I don't want it rolling out and burning me or the house. So I make it a point to just leave it alone and let it burn and forget about it. And I've never ended up with a pile of ash against the door. Eventually it must end up moving out of the way on its own as the rest of the fire burns up.
  21. clemsonfor

    clemsonfor Minister of Fire

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    normally load NS but if I have a piece EW that gets against the glass I leave it! I Have a CAT stove so im not opening that door for at least 10 hours !!
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  22. keninmich

    keninmich Member

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    I actually removed my andirons from my Keystone. I love the look of the fire without them.
    I even called Woodstock to see if it was an issue removing them and even though they prefer you dont...i finally dragged it out of them that it won't hurt a thing.

    And yes...if i have a piece of wood against the glass (rare) i will move it.
  23. ArsenalDon

    ArsenalDon Minister of Fire

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    Wow. your mum and da must have been children of the Dr. Spock era of child raising...;lol
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  24. ArsenalDon

    ArsenalDon Minister of Fire

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    I leave mine down on my IR....unless a round is going in the front and then they go up
  25. remkel

    remkel Minister of Fire

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    I can assure you they were not :) I think the last sentence of my post better summarizes my parenting style :)

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