I just bought a 1300 sqft ranch and It has a fireplace on in the living room. What would be the best insert for me? I aint looking to break the bank but I dont want junk either. I woud like some good burn times aso atleast 6 hours Thanks Paul
What is the best insert
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Impossible to say without some more information Paul. Is this a masonry or prefab fireplace? We also need to know the complete fireplace dimensions including top and bottom H + W + D front and rear. It would also be helpful to know if there is nearby woodwork and if there is a combustible mantel. Pictures always are welcome.
You'll hafta give us a little more info. Is your FP built in place or is it a factory built? What are the dimensions (H, W & D? Is there a mantle or a mantle shelf? Is the hearth raised or flush? How high is the chimney?
If you can post a pic or two of the existing unit that can help us as well...
There are no real standards to which fireplaces were/are built, so one manufacturer's insert may fit while another's may not. Also, ranch houses are notoriously difficult to heat evenly with wood, unless you can figure out how to move the heated air sideways.
clemsonfor
Minister of Fire
I have a High Valley insert. I heated my whole 2500ish sqft first floor this winter with the 2500 model, they also have a 1500 model. I think the 2500 model is around $2400ish new. I can get 24 hour burns in shoulder season. In the winter it will go 10-12 hours bwtween loads.
Sorry yea its a masonary with stone mantle. Here is a link to the house you can see the fireplace. Gota get diimensions http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/271-Pond-Hill-Rd_Wallingford_CT_06492_M36929-65557
Hard to tell for sure from that pic, but another concern might be the hearth extension dimension from the front face of the insert. Rick
ETA: We could also use some info on the flue/chimney. How tall from the fireplace to daylight, and what are the interior dimensions of the flue, is it completely lined with tile, what kind of shape's it in, has it been inspected by a professional sweep?
ETA: We could also use some info on the flue/chimney. How tall from the fireplace to daylight, and what are the interior dimensions of the flue, is it completely lined with tile, what kind of shape's it in, has it been inspected by a professional sweep?
mellow
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From that one pic it looks like your chimney will be in the 15ft range, might need an extender on it.
Get us the fireplace dimensions so we can figure out what insert will fit.
Get us the fireplace dimensions so we can figure out what insert will fit.
Ok inside height is 28 inches 38 inches wide and 23 inches deep. Hearth sticks out aprox 15 inches after the fireplace opening.
Dix
Minister of Fire
Looks like the FP is at one end of the house,. What's the layout & flow through the rest of it? A floor plan (I'm the floor plan gal !!) would be most helpful here.
Welcome to the forums
Oh, and how is your wood supply? If none, get cranking on it !! If started, good job
Nice house
Welcome to the forums
Oh, and how is your wood supply? If none, get cranking on it !! If started, good job
Nice house
Got round 7 cord. Moisture meter says it's between 13 and 15. What do you mean flow? Yea fireplace in living room bedrooms are on other end of the house. Thanks.
Dix
Minister of Fire
Flow means air flow..... walls in the way of warm/cold air moving through out the house, etc. It takes time for the warm air to find the spots (and for the interior of the house to warm up & hold the heat) , and once it does, with a good "loop" of air flow, you've got constant flow of warm air. Often with the help of a well placed fan or two.
Like I said, a floor plan (stick drawn is fine) would help alot.
http://www.google.com/search?um=1&h...0...1ac.gPlOtXakgB4#biv=i|64;d|QYp8jY5u8AJCaM:
Similar to this the only diff is my stairs are where the lav is. There is still a wall between the living room and kitchen. Fireplace is on the side wall of the living room. The wall farthest right on the screen.
Similar to this the only diff is my stairs are where the lav is. There is still a wall between the living room and kitchen. Fireplace is on the side wall of the living room. The wall farthest right on the screen.
BrowningBAR
Minister of Fire
What is your budget for this? If you have a liner installed you are looking at around $1500 for liner installation + stove. Figure at least $1500 for the insert.
You can get the Osburn 2000 (2.3 cu ft firebox) for about $1700:
http://woodstoves.net/osburn/wood/2000-Insert.htm
You can get the Napoleon 1402 (2.25 cu ft firebox) for, probably, about the same price:
http://woodstoves.net/napoleon/wood/1402.htm
The Pacific Energy Super insert (1.97 cu ft firebox) for about $2200:
http://www.chimneysweeponline.com/pacsupins.htm
The Pacific Energy T5 (2 cu ft firebox) insert for about $3000
http://www.chimneysweeponline.com/pact5ins.htm
You can get the Osburn 2000 (2.3 cu ft firebox) for about $1700:
http://woodstoves.net/osburn/wood/2000-Insert.htm
You can get the Napoleon 1402 (2.25 cu ft firebox) for, probably, about the same price:
http://woodstoves.net/napoleon/wood/1402.htm
The Pacific Energy Super insert (1.97 cu ft firebox) for about $2200:
http://www.chimneysweeponline.com/pacsupins.htm
The Pacific Energy T5 (2 cu ft firebox) insert for about $3000
http://www.chimneysweeponline.com/pact5ins.htm
I can install liner myself just did a bit more complex install at my parents house. As far as money goes its not a real big factor I mean I dont wana spend over $3500 on the insert alone but I want a real good unit. I was also looking at the blaze king princess. Any good?
BrowningBAR
Minister of Fire
Everyone seems to like the Princess insert. Burn times that Blaze King list seem accurate based on user reports here.
1300 sq ft... and ain't looking to break the bank? The Princess seems a bit of overkill, given the criteria. Have you looked at a Buck 20?
BrowningBAR
Minister of Fire
I could have sworn that I saw a lot of posts that talked about the Princess and the Chinook working best in a 1500 sq ft home. 1300 is pretty close. But, I could be wrong.
Hiram Maxim
Minister of Fire
It has a T-Stat, nothing about it would be overkill!
+ better to have higher heat capacity and not need it than have lower and wish You had it.
My house is 2120 sqft and the BK King gets to run slow n low= less fill ups and long burn times.
I could have easily gotten away with the Princess with my sqft
Hiram Maxim
Minister of Fire
Buck 20 is around 2600. I got a price of 3100out the door for the bk. If I am spending 2600 for lower burn times its worth it to me to just spend the extra 500.
Your setup sounds very similar to my old house, except that my stove was in the basement and the entrance was on the far side of the house. I had massive air leaks that pulled all the heat right out of the house. My furnace ran constantly. I oversized my insert (2.5cuft) and was happy with that decision. After the first winter, I got tired of crawling through my attic and had the entire thing spray foamed. The results were instantly noticeable. The gas bill came way down and the house was much more comfortable and we even turned the thermostat up a couple degrees. The insert could also do the heavy lifting and the furnace didn't run.
As was mentioned, a couple well placed fans will help distribute the heat. Expect the farthest rooms to be a little cooler though.
As was mentioned, a couple well placed fans will help distribute the heat. Expect the farthest rooms to be a little cooler though.
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