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  1. jimmieguns Member

    joined: Dec 10, 2012
    216 posts
    Long Island, NY
    tempgauge.jpg Hi , been have semi so so fires last few days producing heat. My question is , is there an "optimal temp" to wait to close the damper. Any ideas advice appreciated. Thanks

    btw, just closed mine 95 percent after 2 hrs 15 min and temp 400 degrees

    ***this pic taken 1 15 hrs in and waiting for some heat!
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  2. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    How is your wood supply?
  3. jimmieguns Member

    joined: Dec 10, 2012
    216 posts
    Long Island, NY
    getting low-- 1/4 cord left-- pretty good and dry -mostly under 20 percent moisture and mainly 13-16 Percent range
  4. Trilifter7 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 19, 2012
    268 posts
    Beavercreek Ohio
    I normally close my bypass damper on my resolute at around 450-500* flu temp. Stove top temp all depends on if its a cold start or a reload but I normally go by the flew temp. Sometimes if it gets up there fast i'll check the wood to make sure it's charred before closing it.
  5. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    You have an insert i am not very good with them maybe someone else will chime in that can help.
  6. remkel Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 21, 2010
    1,433 posts
    Southwest NH
    I have never operated an insert, but Corey's question is what comes to my mind.
  7. jatoxico Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 8, 2011
    727 posts
    Long Island NY
    Third person on LI that said stove's been funny last couple days (includes me) ;lol . I start shutting down around around 400 stove top but that is not a hard and fast rule. Depends on what the fire is doing. I'm into the color, don't like sooty orange. Sooty orange = more air for me. I don't like your thermo placement door temps are not accurate. Can you get it on the top somewhere? In the vent maybe. Mine is in the vent and I need a flashlight to read it but it's accurate in that position.
  8. jimmieguns Member

    joined: Dec 10, 2012
    216 posts
    Long Island, NY
    Hey Neighbor-- in Suffolk here- you? where in the vent r u referring? do you have a pic? got this gauge today at Home Depot-- wasn't sure of best placement though
  9. jatoxico Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 8, 2011
    727 posts
    Long Island NY
    Yeah Suffolk near West Meadow, you? Can you place it in the vent where the hot air comes out? That's usually the stove's top.
  10. jimmieguns Member

    joined: Dec 10, 2012
    216 posts
    Long Island, NY
    Holbrook area......... yeah I guess I could put it there---but thats the output temp-- right? i thought we should adjust by INTERNAL insert temp..am i wrong?
  11. jatoxico Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 8, 2011
    727 posts
    Long Island NY
    That should be your top temp which is usually the best you can do especially with an insert since you can't check stack temps. After awhile you get to know when "my thermo reads this the fires doing this" if you know what I mean.
  12. BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    7,103 posts
    Doylestown, PA
    Not a lot of wood in that firebox. Also, measuring temps in an insert is different than on a free standing stove.

    Combine the two and there's your problem.
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  13. BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    7,103 posts
    Doylestown, PA
    How, exactly, are you measuring internal temps?
  14. jimmieguns Member

    joined: Dec 10, 2012
    216 posts
    Long Island, NY
    yeah i think so.......still trying to figure things out-- my first real season of any "real" woodburning-- love it so farr-- but frustrating in the learning process-- i have no patience
  15. jimmieguns Member

    joined: Dec 10, 2012
    216 posts
    Long Island, NY
    Yes I agree---- That was a burned down initial fire i started just before i added :).....where would you put it BB , you can see my insert pic, i assume. Thanks!
  16. BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    7,103 posts
    Doylestown, PA
    You can put the thermometer anywhere, you just need to be aware of how that spot reflects the temperature of your stove as a whole. You need to find out what is the recommended spot to measure temps and what temps are recommended for that stove. I have no experience with this stove.
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  17. jimmieguns Member

    joined: Dec 10, 2012
    216 posts
    Long Island, NY
    Gotcha- that makes alot of sense! Thanks again!
  18. jatoxico Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 8, 2011
    727 posts
    Long Island NY
    Know it well, especially Holbrook wines and liquors by the Costco!
  19. jimmieguns Member

    joined: Dec 10, 2012
    216 posts
    Long Island, NY
    lol --yep been there a FEW times :) ! doing a sangria tonight....anyway glad you are nearby--could use all the help you can offer!
  20. jatoxico Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 8, 2011
    727 posts
    Long Island NY
    Anytime, pretty good number of LI folks here. Been helping me get it right :cool:. Not to mention the rest of the crowd, it's a good group.
  21. rijim Member

    joined: Jan 19, 2009
    177 posts
    RI
    +1 on the small amount of wood; have you tried loading that thing right up? Don't know where to get a good temp reading, but, load that thing up get the wood going well and charred then start closing the air control by 1/4 increments waiting maybe 10 between and watch your secondary burn. With a free standing EPA stove, the air is pretty close to right when the fire is on the secondary tubes and just dancing across the logs; if you star to loose it you closed too far, open up and restart you'll learn what to expect from your setup pretty quick.
  22. jimmieguns Member

    joined: Dec 10, 2012
    216 posts
    Long Island, NY
    Thanks--i but have an insert. its reco'd to not heat it up TOO fast or damage can result-- i don't know much-- novice here trying to learn from all my new friends here! thanks! HNY
  23. Stubborn Dutchman Member

    joined: Jan 11, 2010
    119 posts
    Southern Michigan
    So the pic is of one of your break in fires? Good man for following the manual! The second year burning gets so much easier. Then you are just fine tuning things for max efficiency.
  24. Swedishchef Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 17, 2010
    1,454 posts
    Quebec, Canada
    I close my door after 10 minutes or so and then let the primary air do it's thing until flu temperatures reach about 400-500. Then I turn it down to about 1/6th.

    Andrew
  25. velvetfoot Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2005
    4,839 posts
    Sand Lake, NY
    Do you open it up again when down to coals?

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