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What type of stove for rental property

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by bad69bird, Feb 9, 2013.

  1. bad69bird

    bad69bird Member

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    My FIL makes settlement next month on a rental he purchased, previous owner is removing his home built wood stove for saftey reasons. My FIL asked for help in choosing a new stove, he likes my keystone and I like woodstock, but do you guys think a cat soapstone stove is a good idea for a rental? thinking maybe secondary steel is the way to go seems it would be more forgiving for a renter who might not be expreicned, THink maybe a nc 30 is more up his alley

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  2. chvymn99

    chvymn99 Minister of Fire

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    Not too sure on that topic, but NC30 would be a good solid and "less expensive" alternative. But it might be a good thing to make sure that the FIL informs/provides a metal ash bucket for the renters. And require them to keep the bucket of ashes out side on a concrete/gravel away from flammables. Seeing how many ash's have burnt down house this year.
  3. bad69bird

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    I agree, I dont know how I would feel about renters and a wood stove but I think its the main source of heat
  4. Hogwildz

    Hogwildz Minister of Fire

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    If he is re-renting it. He would be doing himself a great service not to install a wood stove in there.
    The renters are not going to take care of the stove, and probably not burn & service it properly.
    Install a gas stove if he must install a stove.

    Ah, didn't see main source of heat. Def go gas then. Or maybe even minisplits with heat pumps.
  5. Butcher

    Butcher Minister of Fire

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    I agree. It might also be hard to find a renter that will go to the time and effort to have enough wood around to keep themselves warm.
  6. Dieselbreath

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    Agree on not having wood heat in a rental. Absentee landlords just finished installing another home (after the first house burnt down caused by the wood stove) on neighboring property. If you have access to natural gas look into that. They have a ductless heat pump installed now but don't know how that would work out in a really cold climate.
  7. Boiler74

    Boiler74 Burning Hunk

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    I own quite a few rentals. No way in Hades would I have a woodstove in a rental. Gives me shivers just thinking about it.
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  8. ddahlgren

    ddahlgren Feeling the Heat

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    Have no idea what the laws are where you are but here I don't think you can get a CO to live in it without heat water sanitary etc. Rentals here have rules about temperature and a bunch of other regs as well.
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    madison Minister of Fire

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    I would be surprised if an insurer would write a policy for a rental without heat and a wood stove
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  10. bad69bird

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    co?
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    Certificate of Occupancy?
  12. hobbyheater

    hobbyheater Minister of Fire

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    Some renters and wood burning stoves just don't mix! Something like this. It is electric and is cheap, sort of looks like a fire, and the worst thing that can happen is that it gets unplugged.
  13. ddahlgren

    ddahlgren Feeling the Heat

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    Yes too many abbreviations around here..LOL
  14. ddahlgren

    ddahlgren Feeling the Heat

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    That in put an inductive range in even if a used one and cut the number of chances for a stove fire way down..
  15. EatenByLimestone

    EatenByLimestone Minister of Fire

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    I yanked my century out of my old house when it wouldn't sell and I had to rent it. The current tenants want to buy it and asked if the old stove can be part of the purchase. I figure we can work something out. The stove is installed in the cabin right now, but a T-4 would look better there.


    Matt
  16. firefighterjake

    firefighterjake Minister of Fire

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    Not a big fan of renters and woodstoves . . . not to say that some renters would do quite well . . . but from the many renters I've seen generally the less hands on the better.
  17. Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle

    Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle Minister of Fire

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    Same issue here. Would NOT have a renter and a wood stove.

    Bad karma for sure.
  18. wingsfan

    wingsfan Feeling the Heat

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    Renters don't take care of the drywall, Never mind a stove..u hear or read all kinds of horror stories were the renter had a house fire caused from the wood stove,,Most renters are not gonna be experienced enough, to trust introducing a fire in the house...Heck a lot of them have problems with the cooking stove In the kitchen.And a #0 would not be the one I would trust an amateur with...If you don't watch the air, the 30 can have some pretty high temps going on,,I say for rental , plug the chimney off and leave he stove out.JMHO.
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    Better insure it well as it will get burned down. IMO a bad idea.
  20. Seanm

    Seanm Feeling the Heat

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    I agree with many of the posters above. Do not put a wood burning stove in a rental. How do you monitor how often the stack is cleaned? who cleans it? If the tenants move out after being in the rental for only one month will you be fighting with them to have them cover the cost of cleaning? How dry will the wood be? will they have smouldering fires? How will you know if they over fire? My two cents as a property manager.
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  21. Seanm

    Seanm Feeling the Heat

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    Sorry, I know the question was not should I, but what kind of stove to put in. Still please consider my above post.
  22. littlalex

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    It's unanimous, no wood stove. Some specs of the unit would be helpful in recommending a main heat source; size, layout, budget etc. a good place to start and what fuel is available. If available, it's hard to see installing anything other than a NG stove of some sort for a whole bunch of reasons.

    Regards,
    Littlalex
  23. branchburner

    branchburner Minister of Fire

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    My agent said he didn't represent a single insurer that would even write a policy to cover a rental with a wood stove. Any turnover in tenants means a potential turnover in tenant ability to properly run a stove.
  24. begreen

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    Regency and PE are made in your neck of the woods. They are simpler stoves. In this case, you want as simple to operate as possible.

    That said, I agree this is not a great idea. Check with the insuring agent and local authorities to assert whether a wood stove as sole source of heat is insurable and acceptable for a rental.
  25. firecracker_77

    firecracker_77 Minister of Fire

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    I don't know very many people that would have woodstove heat as their primary heat except for all the nuts on hearth.com. :)

    Seriously, agree with the others that it's a bad move and the person that brought up the insurance issues. I wouldn't feel comfortable with the knowing how to operate safely and not cause issues like chimney fire. I'm leery of it for myself let alone somebody I don't know very well with my property.
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