What type of stove for rental property

bad69bird Posted By bad69bird, Feb 9, 2013 at 9:43 AM

  1. bad69bird

    bad69bird
    Member 2.
    NULL
    

    Oct 7, 2011
    62
    4
    Loc:
    New London Pa
    My FIL makes settlement next month on a rental he purchased, previous owner is removing his home built wood stove for saftey reasons. My FIL asked for help in choosing a new stove, he likes my keystone and I like woodstock, but do you guys think a cat soapstone stove is a good idea for a rental? thinking maybe secondary steel is the way to go seems it would be more forgiving for a renter who might not be expreicned, THink maybe a nc 30 is more up his alley
     
  2. chvymn99

    chvymn99
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Nov 20, 2010
    652
    193
    Loc:
    Kansas
    Not too sure on that topic, but NC30 would be a good solid and "less expensive" alternative. But it might be a good thing to make sure that the FIL informs/provides a metal ash bucket for the renters. And require them to keep the bucket of ashes out side on a concrete/gravel away from flammables. Seeing how many ash's have burnt down house this year.
     
  3. bad69bird

    bad69bird
    Member 2.
    NULL
    

    Oct 7, 2011
    62
    4
    Loc:
    New London Pa
    I agree, I dont know how I would feel about renters and a wood stove but I think its the main source of heat
     
  4. Hogwildz

    Hogwildz
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Nov 3, 2006
    7,795
    1,539
    Loc:
    Next to nuke plant Berwick, PA.
    If he is re-renting it. He would be doing himself a great service not to install a wood stove in there.
    The renters are not going to take care of the stove, and probably not burn & service it properly.
    Install a gas stove if he must install a stove.

    Ah, didn't see main source of heat. Def go gas then. Or maybe even minisplits with heat pumps.
     
  5. Butcher

    Butcher
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Nov 2, 2011
    530
    364
    Loc:
    N. central Ia.
    I agree. It might also be hard to find a renter that will go to the time and effort to have enough wood around to keep themselves warm.
     
  6. Dieselbreath

    Dieselbreath
    Member 2.
    NULL
    

    Mar 6, 2009
    114
    3
    Loc:
    Oregon
    Agree on not having wood heat in a rental. Absentee landlords just finished installing another home (after the first house burnt down caused by the wood stove) on neighboring property. If you have access to natural gas look into that. They have a ductless heat pump installed now but don't know how that would work out in a really cold climate.
     
  7. Boiler74

    Boiler74
    Burning Hunk 2.
    NULL
    

    Nov 30, 2012
    224
    80
    Loc:
    West Lafayette, IN
    I own quite a few rentals. No way in Hades would I have a woodstove in a rental. Gives me shivers just thinking about it.
     
    Hearth Mistress and nate379 like this.
  8. ddahlgren

    ddahlgren
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Apr 18, 2011
    542
    106
    Loc:
    SE CT
    Have no idea what the laws are where you are but here I don't think you can get a CO to live in it without heat water sanitary etc. Rentals here have rules about temperature and a bunch of other regs as well.
     
    nate379 likes this.
  9. madison

    madison
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Sep 12, 2008
    1,499
    96
    Loc:
    41.33°N 74.18°W and 44.67°N 111.0°W
    I would be surprised if an insurer would write a policy for a rental without heat and a wood stove
     
    nate379 likes this.
  10. bad69bird

    bad69bird
    Member 2.
    NULL
    

    Oct 7, 2011
    62
    4
    Loc:
    New London Pa
    co?
     
  11. bad69bird

    bad69bird
    Member 2.
    NULL
    

    Oct 7, 2011
    62
    4
    Loc:
    New London Pa
    Certificate of Occupancy?
     
  12. hobbyheater

    hobbyheater
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Nov 14, 2011
    1,062
    422

    0643548_1.jpg


    Some renters and wood burning stoves just don't mix! Something like this. It is electric and is cheap, sort of looks like a fire, and the worst thing that can happen is that it gets unplugged.
     
  13. ddahlgren

    ddahlgren
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Apr 18, 2011
    542
    106
    Loc:
    SE CT
    Yes too many abbreviations around here..LOL
     
  14. ddahlgren

    ddahlgren
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Apr 18, 2011
    542
    106
    Loc:
    SE CT
    That in put an inductive range in even if a used one and cut the number of chances for a stove fire way down..
     
  15. EatenByLimestone

    EatenByLimestone
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Jul 12, 2006
    5,496
    552
    Loc:
    Schenectady, NY
    I yanked my century out of my old house when it wouldn't sell and I had to rent it. The current tenants want to buy it and asked if the old stove can be part of the purchase. I figure we can work something out. The stove is installed in the cabin right now, but a T-4 would look better there.


    Matt
     
  16. firefighterjake

    firefighterjake
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Jul 22, 2008
    17,312
    3,679
    Loc:
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
    Not a big fan of renters and woodstoves . . . not to say that some renters would do quite well . . . but from the many renters I've seen generally the less hands on the better.
     
  17. Dix

    Dix
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    May 27, 2008
    5,778
    1,392
    Loc:
    Long Island, NY
    Same issue here. Would NOT have a renter and a wood stove.

    Bad karma for sure.
     
  18. wingsfan

    wingsfan
    Feeling the Heat 2.
    NULL
    

    Dec 1, 2008
    370
    77
    Loc:
    Jackson,Mi.
    Renters don't take care of the drywall, Never mind a stove..u hear or read all kinds of horror stories were the renter had a house fire caused from the wood stove,,Most renters are not gonna be experienced enough, to trust introducing a fire in the house...Heck a lot of them have problems with the cooking stove In the kitchen.And a #0 would not be the one I would trust an amateur with...If you don't watch the air, the 30 can have some pretty high temps going on,,I say for rental , plug the chimney off and leave he stove out.JMHO.
     
  19. chris5150

    chris5150
    Member 2.
    NULL
    

    Nov 21, 2012
    79
    19
    Loc:
    East Central WI
    Better insure it well as it will get burned down. IMO a bad idea.
     
  20. Seanm

    Seanm
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Oct 16, 2012
    906
    282
    Loc:
    SE BC Canadian Rockies
    I agree with many of the posters above. Do not put a wood burning stove in a rental. How do you monitor how often the stack is cleaned? who cleans it? If the tenants move out after being in the rental for only one month will you be fighting with them to have them cover the cost of cleaning? How dry will the wood be? will they have smouldering fires? How will you know if they over fire? My two cents as a property manager.
     
    nate379 likes this.
  21. Seanm

    Seanm
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Oct 16, 2012
    906
    282
    Loc:
    SE BC Canadian Rockies
    Sorry, I know the question was not should I, but what kind of stove to put in. Still please consider my above post.
     
  22. littlalex

    littlalex
    Member 2.
    NULL
    

    Oct 6, 2007
    114
    4
    Loc:
    Hewitt, NJ
    It's unanimous, no wood stove. Some specs of the unit would be helpful in recommending a main heat source; size, layout, budget etc. a good place to start and what fuel is available. If available, it's hard to see installing anything other than a NG stove of some sort for a whole bunch of reasons.

    Regards,
    Littlalex
     
  23. branchburner

    branchburner
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Sep 27, 2008
    2,608
    311
    Loc:
    southern NH
    My agent said he didn't represent a single insurer that would even write a policy to cover a rental with a wood stove. Any turnover in tenants means a potential turnover in tenant ability to properly run a stove.
     
  24. begreen

    begreen
    Mooderator 2.
    NULL
    
    Staff Member

    Nov 18, 2005
    61,881
    7,908
    Loc:
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Regency and PE are made in your neck of the woods. They are simpler stoves. In this case, you want as simple to operate as possible.

    That said, I agree this is not a great idea. Check with the insuring agent and local authorities to assert whether a wood stove as sole source of heat is insurable and acceptable for a rental.
     
  25. firecracker_77

    firecracker_77
    Minister of Fire 2.
    NULL
    

    Dec 16, 2010
    1,438
    315
    Loc:
    NWI office - 2 Heritages; Chicago home - Woodstock
    I don't know very many people that would have woodstove heat as their primary heat except for all the nuts on hearth.com. :)

    Seriously, agree with the others that it's a bad move and the person that brought up the insurance issues. I wouldn't feel comfortable with the knowing how to operate safely and not cause issues like chimney fire. I'm leery of it for myself let alone somebody I don't know very well with my property.
     
    Hearth Mistress likes this.

Share This Page