Whats the best way to cut a hole in a clay flue liner.

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Seasoned Oak

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Oct 17, 2008
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Im trying to install a clay thimble in a brick flue lined chimney.Removing the brick was easy. Clay liner is about 3/4 " thick. Sure i can bust through with a hammer drill but ill crack the liner to pieces.Im trying to make a nice clean 7" hole without cracking the liner .So far i tried a carbide hole saw(liner too hard) A oscillating tool with a diamond blade(too slow) a small diamond tip hole saw(frayed out the saw edges).
 
I'm not sure how much room you have to work with, but when I cut our thimble I used a diamond blade on an angle grinder. I tried just about everything prior and nothing would dent it. The diamond wheel made quick work of the cut. I couldn't believe how hard that stuff is. Be careful, the edges can be brutal.
 
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the guys who did my chimney cut the top piece of like with a skill saw and masonry blade worked great but the was straight cutting. i would first try the angle grinder and diamond blade if not enough room get really good masonry drill bits and drill holes around in a circle about quarter in apart and very gently tap the hole pie out. if the clay thimble doesnt fit perfect you could use refractory cement to make things pretty. i dont know if this will work but its what i would try
 
Masonry bits dont work unless i can find a diamond masonry bit.
 
When I had to cut through 8" of solid concrete plus a cinder block wall for the gas flue in the basement, I rented a 7" coring saw and drill. Made quick and very neat work of the hole. Might be overkill for just the 3/4" liner, but if you want it done neat and fast...

http://www.dexpan.com/core-bit-diamond-core-drill-bit-tb700.aspx
 
When I had to cut through 8" of solid concrete plus a cinder block wall for the gas flue in the basement, I rented a 7" coring saw and drill. Made quick and very neat work of the hole. Might be overkill for just the 3/4" liner, but if you want it done neat and fast...

http://www.dexpan.com/core-bit-diamond-core-drill-bit-tb700.aspx
You gave me an idea ,i have a 2" diamond tipped hole saw i use in plaster for drilling insulation holes ill try that. May be able to drill a series of smaller holes. I know a grinder with a 4" diamond blade will work as well.
 
Diamond blade on an angle grinder. I use a diamond blade on a skil saw to cut bricks, but you'll probably need the angle for this one
Those can be hard to control.I have both a 4 and a 7" angle Grinder. A few months ago i cut a nasty gash in my hand with the 7" trying to cut a cast iron pipe in half when it jammed.
 
Regular masonary products do not work. Need diamond tipped tools for granite,marble ,quartz type stone ect.
 
How about carbide grit jigsaw blades?
 
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How about carbide grit jigsaw blades?
I have all kinds of carbide tools ,this stuff is too hard for carbide,like granite or quartz you need diamond tools for it
 
Update: Well the 4" diamond blade on an angle grinder did the trick .Like a hot knife thru butter. You got to be very careful though,those angle grinders are hard to control and i did get hurt with one a few months ago. Probably the very best way would be to rent a 7" diamond hole saw bit and put a clean hole thru both the brick and the liner.
 
Update: Well the 4" diamond blade on an angle grinder did the trick .Like a hot knife thru butter. You got to be very careful though,those angle grinders are hard to control and i did get hurt with one a few months ago. Probably the very best way would be to rent a 7" diamond hole saw bit and put a clean hole thru both the brick and the liner.
Nice work. I'm glad it worked out so well for you. The M-10 would have been more fun though! ==c
 
Glad the diamond blade worked out for you, Randy. I used one for around 7 hours last week when I cut all the pieces of stone to make stone registers for my fireplace chase. Rotozip also makes a diamond burr bit that works fantastic for cutting stone, tile, quartz, marble, etc......I have one of those too. They are pricey (I think the bit was 30-some bucks), but they are awesome for when you need to make an odd cut in masonry. I may only use it a couple times in my life, but it's there when I need it.
 
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