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Which creates more heat?

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by David Tackett, Nov 29, 2012.

  1. Bluerubi

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    I think the key to your question is the comment about it sinking to the bottom. For that to happen the anchor material needs to be more dense than water, so it should displace more water sitting in a boat then when it sits on the bottom. Therefore, my vote is level will go down.

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  2. MnDave

    MnDave Guest

    Totally agreed.

    Efficiency in this case being the heat value in the wood that ends up in the room/house vs up the chimney.

    Those secondary burn tubes or cats (let's not forget the other religion) are key to efficiency.

    Based on what I have read, cats do a better job of controlling the burn process at optimum. Fortunately the EPA cared mainly about emissions. If they were also driving mfgs by efficiency, (like CAFE standards on cars) tube stoves might not be on the market, as they are probably less efficient unless controlled by a microprocessor.

    That said, a great tube stove operator (Huntindog1) will get more out of their non-cat stove than a cat stove operator who is confused about cat operation.

    MnDave
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  3. MnDave

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    Bingo.

    A coworker told me that he interviewed at 3M before choosing IBM. The interviewer asked him this question point-blank. I think he had a masters degree so that was fair game. Right?

    MnDave
  4. HotCoals

    HotCoals Minister of Fire

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    Thanks and no I don't have the heat shields.
    That pic was before it was even fired up.

    That ain't much of a hint for a redneck wanabe thermodynamics engineer! lol

    Labatt's beer is the best..but I drink Captain Morgen/Coke!
  5. Tramontana

    Tramontana Burning Hunk

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    But...







    ...what is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
  6. MnDave

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    No surprise on the heat shields.

    That was a lead. I should have stalled the answer a little more. Truth be told. I did not get it, my good friend and neighbor, who is also a layed-off IBMer solved it verbally in about 2 minutes. Read what bluerubi wrote best explanation takes the fewest words.

    I love Labatt's but cannot afford it until Social Security kicks in. J/k I am a cheap SOB.

    Captain Morgens/coke... I love it but it keeps me up all night... sometimes a good thing if ya know what I mean.

    I mainly drink Busch Lite. Less than $15 a case.

    I cannot imagine having as many post as some of the folks on this forum. But this a really nice place.

    MnDave



    I like Martini's too.

    MnDave
  7. MnDave

    MnDave Guest

    roughly 11 meters per second

    just a rough quess but almost intuitive
  8. HotCoals

    HotCoals Minister of Fire

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    Yep ..I seen his answer after I posted.
    I knew the weight of the anchor in the boat had something to do with it!
    I should have realized the anchor would not displace water no where as much in the water as it did in the boat..dang.

    You can get addicted to this place..fine people for sure!
    I hang here and at a snow sled site a lot in the winter...actually the sled site all year..lol.
  9. MnDave

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    Yep when I heard the logic I thought, duh. I thew away the ruler I was so pissed. <>

    Sleds. Got 4. Two 600's, 2 older 440's. Fun. My wife rides.

    Don't want to hijack. Which sled-site? Who are you there?

    MnDave
  10. HotCoals

    HotCoals Minister of Fire

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    Capt Storm..hardcoresledder.com
    I run a apex and the wife a doo xp.
    We are not very normal sled nuts on there..lol.
  11. Tramontana

    Tramontana Burning Hunk

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    The water level neither rises nor drops...




    ...It's a dry lakebed due to extreme drought conditions. :)
  12. MnDave

    MnDave Guest

    Awe, why did you have to bring up glow ball warning?
  13. Tramontana

    Tramontana Burning Hunk

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    An African or European swallow?
  14. Tramontana

    Tramontana Burning Hunk

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    ...um...

    I didn't, you did?


    I'm answering from a western USA perspective where we've been experiencing record drought conditions, that and the written problem states the anchor is dropped from the boat "onto" the bottom of the lake rather than "into" the lake.


    Cheers!
  15. MnDave

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    I might have a sign-on there. Not sure. Seemed king of intimidating for newbies. I wrench on older sleds mainly.

    A Yami, I have an 81 SS 440. A screamer... Probably the fastest 440 and the most 440's still on the trail.

    I'll check out hardcoresledder Capt.

    MnDave
  16. HotCoals

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    Waring..we are out there on that site..check for me in the general forum.
    Is that a srx 440?

    Ok math guys..figure this.

    A 10 foot rope ladder hangs over the side of a boat with the bottom rung on the surface of the water. The rungs are one foot apart, and the tide goes up at the rate of 6 inches per hour. How long will it be until three rungs are covered?
  17. MnDave

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    Not a SRX 440. Just a run-of-the mill SS 440. I wanted a SRV 540 soooo bad. But sofar the ones I have checked on have sloopy steering. Dang... they had too much fun with those machines.

    Can I get back to you on that stumper, I need some mainframe computer time to crunch that one... gravitational effects and all.

    MnDave
  18. Tramontana

    Tramontana Burning Hunk

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    Is the boat aground or afloat?

    If she is aground, there is not enough information. If she is afloat, the waterline of the incoming tide should not ever wet any additional rungs as the top of the ladder over the side of the boat will rise equally as the boat rises with the tide.

    Cheers!
  19. MnDave

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    OMG. Give a guy a chance... ? :(
  20. Tramontana

    Tramontana Burning Hunk

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    I thought you had all gone to sleep? ;-)
  21. MnDave

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    Schleeep? Me?

    BTW True or false,
    Your atoms and my atoms will end up in a black hole?
  22. jharkin

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    Wow you guys have a lot of energy.


    I believe the answer to you question depends on which one of the fate of universe theories (heat death, heat death without proton decay, big crunch, etc) proves to be true. no?
  23. oldspark

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    Since this thread will probably get closed any way (too much rambling)
    How many pancakes does it take to cover a dog house?
    10-because ice cream has no bones
  24. Jack Straw

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    I'll take what he's smoking!
  25. Realstone

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    Here is a device that efficiently transfers heat from the firebox:


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