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  1. fbelec Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 23, 2005
    1,345 posts
    northern massachusetts
    last night i loaded the defiant to the gills with 2 pine splits and the rest maple including 1 maple 6 by 6 and one 5 x 5. last night i loaded at 11:30 at 400 stove top temp and at 8:30 this morning it was at 325. house over night went from 71 at 11:30 to 78 at 8:30. last nights low was 3 outside.

    those out here running a old defiant put a brick in the secondary burn chamber right under the air manifold ( or straight to the far right of the stove. it will not block the opening ) it helps the secondary big time. after loading the stove on coals wood up against the baffle the secondary lit right away and it sound like a low flame rumble when checked 1 hour after loading. the brick fits perfectly like it was made for it. this might work for the vigilant also. it helps cushion the secondary temps
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  2. Crane Stoves Member

    joined: Apr 22, 2012
    206 posts
    Duxbury, MA.
    I dont think anyone says pre epa stoves are junk... quite the contrary! I keep an old defiant out in the outbuilding as a trash burner and brush burner and anything else i can find when i need to go out their on a cold day.... LOVE IT!
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  3. Stoneduster New Member

    joined: Oct 8, 2012
    6 posts
    Central Vermont
    Is there any way you could post a picture of this brick configuration? I am curious, thanks.
  4. fbelec Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 23, 2005
    1,345 posts
    northern massachusetts
    i'll see if i can grab a picture this weekend. got to wait til it's not running and i'm not behind a plow.
  5. fbelec Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 23, 2005
    1,345 posts
    northern massachusetts
    it's hard to see but i took a dozen different shots with no results
    sorry for being late. i do plan to line the secondary camber with brick this summer. IMG_20130301_221536_610.jpg
  6. tfdchief Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 24, 2009
    2,975 posts
    Tuscola, IL
    If you check my signature, you will find I don't think so.;)
  7. pen Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2007
    6,096 posts
    N.E. Penna
    as per your title, I'll say this: Not all pre-epa stoves were created equal!

    Many good stoves from the era, some could survive and protect you from a nuclear blast, others were quite efficient, some ornate, etc.

    Burn'm if ya got 'em.

    pen
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  8. lukem Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 12, 2010
    3,259 posts
    Indiana
    Still rockin old smokey here. He's got a big appetite but cranks heat for 16 hours between reloads.
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  9. dougand3 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 16, 2008
    535 posts
    North Alabama
    The Kent Tile Fire from 1986 is a fine old stove. Has a steel burn chamber in top of fire box, so it's like EPA lite. Last night had a 9 hour burn with lots of red coals for easy start up this morning.

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