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Who wants to make and install a hoist?

Post in 'The Gear' started by Machria, Feb 10, 2013.

  1. Machria

    Machria Minister of Fire

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    Any "hoist geniuses out there? I need a hoist installed on the top of my deck pictured below. I will need to go down about 25', and carry about 250 lbs of wood. The motor will need to be attached to the ceiling on the inside of the deck, while the cable goes straight out horizontally about 2' (to keep the wood sack away from side of house on way up) and then around a pulley and down. The pulley will need to be on a bracket that sticks out off the side of house just above deck.

    What do ya think? I'll supply the parts required, the beer, some cash, and a hot stove! ;). You supply the know how!

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  2. gandrimp

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    Wheres the snow pics?

    Not to sure about your idea working very long lifting 250 lbs unless you mount your winch and your pulley on a piece of steel.
    If you mount the two seperately,there will be an amazing amount of pressure in two different directions.

    http://www.hardwareandtools.com/Min...ey-Hanger-Farm-And-Or-Industrial-5651161.html

    Maybe this door trolley, good for 400 lb could be used and just lift straight up, without the pulley.

    Im 1200 miles away sorry I cant help.
  3. Bret Chase

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    it is possible to do... wood structure, and the change of direction does make it more difficult. to use an actual hoist is the best thing to use, but they are very expensive. The last trolley crane I built.. the 1 ton electric hoist itself was over $3,000...
  4. Bret Chase

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    the simplest way is to mount a W8X10 wide flange beam to the bottom of the ceiling joist, and hang a manual trolley off of it and mount say a half ton hoist... tie a short rope to the trolley.... push it out to "lifting position", lift the load... then tug the trolley back with the rope..
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    Cranes can be safety nightmares.
    How about a conveyor ? ;)
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    Catapult? ::-) :p
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    Buy a part-timmer! ;)
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  9. nate379

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    That fellow is pretty brave, those scaffolds aren't exactly solid. I used some when I put up my solar panels and I think I threw out 2 or 3 pairs of undies over the course of a few days :eek:
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    Why not use a hoist like the roofers do? You can covert an aluminium ladder with a Harbor Freight electric winch. Plus is that it would be free standing, could be used elsewhere and is not in the way when you do not need it.

    A conveyor would be more expensive. And you would need 2 people really.
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  12. Couderay80

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    scissor lift??
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  13. Thats what I was going to say. You could drive to your wood pile load it up and park it right next to the deck. Decent used ones are available for 5k.

    And it would come in handy around a house that tall. Could probably rent it out to the neighbors and make back some money.
  14. Machria

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    Ok, maybe I should explain the purpose of the hoist. This is to be a permanant install, to be used to hoist up a load of wood to the stove room every few days. This would be instead of having to carry it up 2 or 3 flights of stairs daily. And, the wife could do it. Just lower the "bin", go down and load some splits into it, then go to the deck and hoist it up and unload it to the wood rack next to the stove. So this needs to be as un-obtrusive as possible. I'd like to mount a simple electric winch to the cieling above the deck, have the cable go straight out thru a hole in the wall to a pully that directs it down. The pully would be suppoorted by a few steel supports which would hold all the weight. Something like what is pictured in the attachment... Should be pretty easy really.

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  15. Jags

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    I wish I were closer. We could probably have that up and running in short order. What are you pulling up? Something like a bag or more of a pallet?
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    fork lift lfrom a junk yard
    or a dumbwaiter might be safest
  17. Machria

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    I'll probably have a large re-inforced canvas bag/sack made up. Just like the hand log carriers for sale fro $30, but I'll make it a bit larger to take more wood up.
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    Easiest and fastest design. My question above was for one simple reason. If lifting a bag, no problems. Lifting a pallet like object it will want to turn on the way up and down. You can't have that. Eventually the cable will break. Easily corrected by using a pipe on two corners with the pallet having slides mounted on it, sliding up and down the pipe.
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    You will still want some sort of line attached so that the bag does not turn circles. A simple clothes line attached to it would be just fine.

    Ask me how I know why you don't want the load to be able to spin. Actually, don't, just trust me.;sick
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  20. This sounds the most feasible. But why not an elevator? Might help resale value. ;)
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    I was thinking about an elevator too but figured that it is much more than the OP wants to do.
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    There's one thing you NEED to get out of your head.... a winch =/= a hoist. you will burn out the single holding brake in a winch in short order and the load will fall. Winches are not designed for vertical lifts, hoists are. there also is more than one load-holding brake in a hoist.

    ... and from what able to see the structure of the roof... the load path will collapse the bottom chord of the gable end... it was never intended to resist a concentrated sideways load.
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    I would like to hear that story !
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    I know it could be done but I certainly would not use a cantaliever off that gable as it's only point of attachement or you will run into bigger issues. I am no engineer but I have built a lot of steel buildings as an iron worker and the preasure is much greater than 250lbs hanging there for sure. I would think a column may be necessary to adaquately support the lift but I like the idea. Very outside the box and will be really cool for sure.

    As a former property and liability insurance agent I would be sure to build in a lock as well. Something like that is a magnet for foolish youth.
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  25. wardk

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    Built this for lifting lumber and plywood to second storey wood shop, cost about $350

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