Wind blows out pilot light

robwil1952 Posted By robwil1952, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:48 PM

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  1. robwil1952

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    Well, since the last update it has actually gone out once, but my parents didn't tell me until the next day so I couldn't really evaluate what was happening at the time. The weather has been mild lately, so I haven't had another chance to watch it. But I can tell you that it is keeping the flame much stronger than before. I will keep everyone posted., there's just nothing happening right now.
     
  2. Fire Bug

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    If it went out once, it will go out again, "Thats A Given"! Something is definitely wrong and you haven't got it right yet!
    If it is under warranty, why aren't you contacting Jotul? Is there more to this story than is being told?
    Sounds like its more than the pilot light flickering in the wind, it sounds like your "piss-n in the wind"!
    Enna or No?

    John
     
  3. DAKSY

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    Jotul stoves are equipped with NovaSIT valve & there IS a brass pilot adjustment screw located on the front of the valve, near the top, between the regulator & the terminal block.
    Turn the screw counterclockwise to increase the pilot intensity.
    Normally, a 1" long pilot flame is standard, but I'd put a multitester - set to millivolts (mv) - on the TP & TH/TP terminals & set the pilot to around 600 mv...
    Too much higher than that & you can "kill" the thermopile...
     
  4. robwil1952

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    Not sure what that is supposed to mean. Are you implying I'm not telling the truth or something? Going to the manufacturer is still an option. I came here to see if this was a common problem and got a few suggestions, which I am trying one at a time.
     
  5. R&D Guy

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    Don't mind him, I tried to help him with one of his many stove issues and he told me that I should go home and beat my wife and kick my dog. :eek:hh: LMAO!! There's one in every crowd.

    Well I'm sorry to hear the shield hasn't been the silver bullet. Try DASKY's suggestion of turning the pilot up.
     
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    how is it vented
     
  7. Fire Bug

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    Hey Rob,
    You take it what ever you want it to mean, but this thread is already on page two,(including my suggestion which was shot down in flames), and if I was in your position, instead of trying to futts with this and try that, and try this, I definitely think by now I would have contacted Jotul for a definite fix.
    Chances are, the way you are headed, you will probably have more problems with your stove than you originaly had by trying two pages of possible solutions that aren't the fix.
    Lets face it you are not a qualified technician and the more you play with this and that the more your going to Jazz it up!
    By not going to the manufacture while the stove is under warranty,(no cost to you), this only leads me to believe that their is something more wrong with this stove,(only you could know that and a technician if he comes out to service it).
    Keep playing with it and not knowing what the heck your doing, and their surely will be.
    Your time, your stove, your safety, do as you please, I don't have a nickel invested in time or cost of your stove.
    Like I said in my last post, "your pis-in in the wind", you are simply out of your league on this one. Leave it to the Pros!
    Maybe you should take the whole stove appart and try all new parts, that MAY fix it.
    It is under warranty!! That's why they offer warranties. Take the option of going to the manufacturer. It will save you lots of time, effort, money, and more than likely, safety for you and your parents or simply keep futzing away at it and I am sure it will sooner or later be more screwed up than it is now and Jotul will deny warranty service because of this, if they don't already.
    Do as you please, it your stove!
    Enna or No,
    Good Luck!
     
  8. robwil1952

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    I put up the exterior shield a few days ago. Previously, before the pilot shield, the flame would waver with a good breeze. The pilot shield solved that, but evidently a good wind could still blow the pilot out. Although it only happened once and I am not sure of the circumstances, as I wasn't notified until the next day. But last night and today were the first big tests. We finally got a nice storm, and we're getting 25-30 MPH sustained winds, with gusts up to 50, directly out of the S to SW, which has been the biggest problem. The flame is not wavering at all....it's perfect. I feel pretty confident that the 2 shields combined have solved the problem. I also believe the problem was the result of the direction the vent cap was facing, my un-optimal location high on the hill taking the full brunt of the wind, and the shortness of the venting system which wasn't able to dissipate enough of the air pressure on breezy/windy days. Anyway, I appreciate all of the advice and encouragement from everyone, and special thanks to 'R&D;Guy' for his perfectly designed pilot shield. :cheese: I will post updates occasionally, as required. Especially once we get the 'big one'.
     
  9. DAKSY

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    Way to go Rob!
    Kudos to R&D;Guy, as well...
    AND I'd like to point out that that combined efforts of the crew here paid off
    & saved a member the cost of a service call!
    Well done!
     
  10. R&D Guy

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    Agreed DAKSY! Lets hope the 1 outage was a fluke, but I think we've helped yet another member here.

    On another note hearing our Oregon Coast friend explain his situation - high up on a hill, overlooking the Pacific Ocean, new construction, with extended family quarters, wind off the deck facing said ocean - and I can say with confidence that I didn't help him because I felt sorry for him....... LOL! I'd be OK having those kind of issues.
     
  11. robwil1952

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    LOL! Well, not a bad view I guess. I'm sure there are lots better, but I'll take it I guess. I only wished it looked like that more often!
    BTW, the Jotul stove is directly below this floor in the same corner as the photo. It vents out to the west on the lower deck.

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    Here's the little stove you helped......and a close-up of the beautiful, strong little pilot flame :cheese:

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    and my little contribution............

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    I was going to take a picture of the nice warm people you helped too (my Mom and Dad), but my Mom nixed that idea :lol:
     
  15. R&D Guy

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    Rob,

    My gosh, I live in a house on a hill too and enjoy watching storms roll in from afar, but the view of the ocean is second to none.
     
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