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  1. doobydo New Member

    joined: Sep 22, 2011
    17 posts
    United Kingdom
    Dan:

    Thanks - that's a good idea, would be a lot easier than trying to connect bendy flue pipes!
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  2. DanCorcoran Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 5, 2010
    1,782 posts
    Richmond, VA
    You didn't say...what was your existing pipe made of?
  3. doobydo New Member

    joined: Sep 22, 2011
    17 posts
    United Kingdom
    Dan:

    It's "made from steel with a quality vitreous enamel coating"

    Thanks
  4. DanCorcoran Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 5, 2010
    1,782 posts
    Richmond, VA
    Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought that was some new pipe you just bought to replace the existing.
  5. doobydo New Member

    joined: Sep 22, 2011
    17 posts
    United Kingdom
    Np - thought the order of messages may have been inversed :)
  6. woodburn Member

    joined: Oct 26, 2007
    221 posts
    Long Island, New York
    doobydo, it's definitely coming from the paint on the brick. You said there was a burned off patch behind the stove. Where do you think that paint went? Clearly vaporized into the air, hence the smell of fumes you are getting. Yes, of course it's harmful to you and your family to breathe it in. Not to worry now, but I certainly wouldn't want to keep burning it. While you have the stove out, I would paint the brick with a proper high temp paint, then use the suggestion of using a heat shield. Good luck. It's definitely a fixable problem, so no need to think about giving up burning.
  7. califf New Member

    joined: Oct 1, 2011
    2 posts
    west virginia
    my initial thoughts would be the paint applied to the bricks...might try covering the brick and floor painted areas to protect from direct heat and see if this eliminates the smell....could strip the paint...which would be a messy chore...or cover with mortar of some kind...
  8. doobydo New Member

    joined: Sep 22, 2011
    17 posts
    United Kingdom
    Hi all

    I have repainted over the bricks today with an enamel heat resistant paint. I would also like to try to move the stove further away from the wall but to do this I would need to put a bend in the flue.

    I am thinking of using this product:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-Adjusta...elpieces_RL&hash=item3a666f2166#ht_2188wt_905

    If I can move the stove away from the wall I will also put in a heat shield.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks
  9. Danno77 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2008
    4,749 posts
    Hamilton, IL
    Was the brown stuff identified? Is that some sort of high temp caulk or stove cement?
  10. doobydo New Member

    joined: Sep 22, 2011
    17 posts
    United Kingdom
    What brown stuff? The patch behind the stove was burnt paint. Is that what you are referring to?
  11. Danno77 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2008
    4,749 posts
    Hamilton, IL
    No the stuff that looks like it was used to seal at the stove collar, at the blockoff plate, and that other square plate.
  12. doobydo New Member

    joined: Sep 22, 2011
    17 posts
    United Kingdom
    Ah yes that is fire cement. I bought the wrong colour but used it anyway as I knew the stove would be coming out.
  13. Danno77 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2008
    4,749 posts
    Hamilton, IL
    No problem. I was hoping tht's what it was. If it was a brown version of that high temp caulk then it could be a source of the problem.
  14. doobydo New Member

    joined: Sep 22, 2011
    17 posts
    United Kingdom
    Ah ok, gotcha.

    Next step is to try to find a way to bend the flue out so I can move the stove away from the wall.
  15. doobydo New Member

    joined: Sep 22, 2011
    17 posts
    United Kingdom
    Update:

    Heat resistant paint went on nicely, put a couple of coats on. Then with the help of a friend who's handy at DIY we managed to pull the chimney liner closer to the front by chipping out some crusty cement that had accumulated on the bricks. This meant the liner came forward by about an inch.

    This meant we could move the stove further forward away from the wall to the extent it is now 2 inches away from the back wall (plenty of room on the sides).

    We used heat resistant sealant to attach the flue pipe to the stove and the liner.

    As yet we haven't put the register plate back up as I wanted to see if there was any smell without it.

    So far so good!

    I burned it fiercely this morning and there was a metallic odour which I took to be the stove mostly, but it might also be the enamel paint hardening. The stove was then kept on medium throughout the day and when I came back from work this evening I couldn't really smell much at all!

    I'll burn it again for the next few days to make sure, but all the signs so far are positive. If it doesn't emit any more strong odours then we'll put the register plate back and the job's finished.
  16. mattiker New Member

    joined: Jan 24, 2012
    1 posts
    UK
    Hi Doobydo,

    I have a similar issue to you, and it's driving my totally crazy (I'm sure you can empathise!). Has yours stopped smelling? Did you put the register plate back in? Did the smell come back? If you cured it what do think was the cause?

    I suspect without the register plate the bad smells might drift up the chimney anyway, right?

    Cheers,

    Matt
  17. Hinneymac New Member

    joined: Jan 3, 2013
    4 posts
    Hi all first post for me,can't believe this I have the very same problem,it's an Evergreen double sided twin door burner and I get the same rancid smell,this must be from the paint as it only happens when you run it hot,it is very off putting and had me worried about the fumes it was giving off. I know hopefully by having a mains connected carbon monoxide alarm that it is not that (as I know you can't smell it, but it's still a worry) I am going to get in contact with Evergreen tomorrow and find out what paint they are using.
    Anyone else having this issue could you please let us know if it is the same manufacturer Ta
    Oh looking forward to reading the other threads looks a great site.
  18. Hinneymac New Member

    joined: Jan 3, 2013
    4 posts
    Well contacted Evergreen they said that it is the paint and you need to burn it hot so I am had a few ragers on the go so I will keep you posted as to how I get on.
  19. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    I think that's the big clue. I would install a metal heat shield onto the back of the stove or onto the brick with at least a 1/2" air gap. The stove is getting the brick hot. The paint on the brick is outgassing when heated.
  20. fiona New Member

    joined: Mar 14, 2013
    1 posts
    hi, just had a stove installed 3 days ago. the fumes are strong, its making my eyes sting. did you have this problem. im kinda worried about it.
  21. Robin Jackson New Member

    joined: Mar 31, 2013
    1 posts
    Calhan, CO 80808
    I also have the strong fumes, almost makes us sick, problem is it has been used every winter since 2007 and we have to go through this every time we let the stove go out. So every time we have a few nice days and it gets cold again we have to sit through the awful "burn-off" all over again.
    Anything we can do to stop this? Repaint stove? Use stove Polish? Shouldn't have to go through this after the first burn in my experience in past life....

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