Wood ID for a Rookie?

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  1. b33p3r

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    Can you guys help a rookie out with an ID on 2 different woods. 3 different pictures of the 1st wood and 1 combination picture of the second wood.


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    White Ash.
     
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    What about the 4th picture?
     
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    ash, all of it
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Thanks! Kinda confused why dark center on one but not on the other? Just a different Ash?
     
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    I don't as a rule see that dark of heartwood on the White Ash here, but the bark and grain looks identical to the previous pics. Did you cut the wood yourself? If so, I would assume it's from different trees or you wouldn't be asking about it. I suppose it could be Black or Green Ash but I'm not familiar with those...
     
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    I have gotten a couple Green Ash and the center is darker like that. White is much harder/heavier. Green Ash after it has seasoned well burns with the prettiest flames you've ever seen. I think is the only wood I've ever burned where I can sit and just watch it burn for a while. Not a great over night wood but for during the day is perfect. The first pics I would say White Ash.
     
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    I think Ash is probably the best all around wood you can get. It splits easy, seasons in a year, and has good btu's. Of course Locust is still my favorite, but not as plentiful.
     
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    The pinhole in the center of the cut-side indicates Ash.

    Always check to see if you have a hole in the center of your Ash!! :) ;lol :p
     
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    Still ash. Someone also made a comment on the size of the heart in ash. In the pictures below, that is almost all ash (just a few small elm mixed into both pictures but the majority is ash). Just look at the difference in the sizes of the hearts.


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    Thanks Dennis, thats interesting. I have green ash here and my problem is that I know the trees. I seperate green from white by seed pods. I never pay much attention to a possible dark heartwood. Im mad at myself for not paying attention.
    I asked my nextdoor neighbor what all the saplings were in his hay field. They are completely taking over. And he disgustingly said they were from my Ash trees. And I laughed. I think they are poplar but I just asked why he let them grow. They have taken over like sumac does. I need to sneak over and cut some twigs.
    An odd phenomenon if the field has been taken over by Ash. He sounds insane saying the seeds are from my trees. I dont think they blow that far.
    Anyway...I wonder about the darker heartwood. Since what I have is green Ash. And it loves wet soil. It grows in the wet ditches in the horse pasture in full sun. Never seen Ash in the woods.
     
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    I'm not so sure picture 4 is ash because the ridges on the bark are too flat and shallow. I've not seen white ash with ridges that flat and shallow. I have mostly white and blue ash on my land. Blue ash has kind if a scaly or flakey bark that's real easy to spot. I've never cut or seen green so what do I know?!?;lol
     
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    Thanks for the replies. I did not drop these 2 trees. But they are 2 seperate trees dropped at the same time. In fact they are clearing some pole lines for new power lines just 1 1/4 mile from my house and the one land owner gave me rights to get whatever I wanted off his property. About a mile stretch of freshly cleared power lines :) So I may drive you guys nuts with wood IDs til I get good at it. I'm gonna pick through the oak and ash for now since I can ID them. I'll snap some pictures of other logs while I'm cutting and post.
     
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    You are welcome. Most of our ash is also in wet areas too. We don't have green ash in this area so I am only faintly familiar with it.

    Interesting that he feels the brush is coming from your ash trees. I'd guess popple coming up from the roots or cherry does the same.
     
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    Looks like it is from a limb.
     
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    Yeah, I think I've seen the flat ridges on branches, or further up the trunk. I will look at a few the next time I'm out.
    I think the Black Ash is more common than the Green...
    Dennis, that's interesting that your Ash comes from wet areas; Maybe that accounts for the darker heart. Before you said that, I thought maybe it had to do with the type of soil the tree grew in. Most of our Ash is on well-drained slopes. I do have one to cut that's in a very wet area. It'll be interesting to see what that one yields.
     
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    I definitely have white ash growing in my limestone based woods, high and dry. Unfortunately, I think it is starting to be unhappy white ash.

    And I never would have guessed white ash on that 4th photo.
     
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    So you've got the light-colored heartwood there, too?
    Unhappy with the borer?
     
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    Unfortunately, seems probable.

    And, yes. Light heartwood on the ash.
     
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    Ash Hole ???
     
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    Yea if you had some White Ash and Green Ash you could tell the difference by the weight alone.
     

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