I plan on being on this forum for a LONG time to come and hope to one day contribute more than just a thousand questions! I have narrowed my saw search to: 1. NEW Stihl 290 $359 from the dealer 2. a used Stihl 036 STANDARD, not a pro for $275 3. a used Stihl 028, properly done muffler mod for $250 Now.. both of the used machines are from a VERY respected individual known for impeccable maintenance, and he stands behind the machines he sells I will only be cutting for home use and MAYBE 6-8 cords a year! Nothing huge either. Thank you all so much for your patience! I have yet to have a single comment that was anything other than helpful !! Don ------------------------- let's hear it!