Quick question; what do you do (or did you do) for a career?

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Nice! I just wish newer ones were as good as older ones. Like Volvos. Things are simply no longer built to last like they were. Too many electronics and not enough mechanics. Land Rovers are sweet rides but they're not the off roading vehicles they used to be (in my opinion..which isnt worth a dime. lol)

Tom: 4 kids?! !!! Congrats! It seems you are one heck of a busy man. How are the goats as pets??

Andrew

Thanks Andrew, 2 girls (11 and 7) and 2 boys (5 and 2) they keep us active.==c

Goats are good pets, we had one a few years back and she was great, almost dog like personality. She passed and we got 2 more, sisters, they're good but not as friendly because they have each other to keep company. We used to raise call ducks, thats a whole other chapter in our life.... :rolleyes:
 
You run in a different caste. I do work with many twenty somethings and don't know any who are as you describe. Of the hundreds of working parents I've come in contact with over the years, I can count on one hand the ones who swapped child rearing for luxury. This is not even including single parents who are the sole breadwinner. I think it's fine for you to feel great about your choice but I don't think, on a public board, you need to make assumptions about other people who did not or cannot make the same choice.
You're right, this is nor the time and the place for the discussion. You simply commented to a reply of mine (my reply was out of context in this thread/forum). My appologies. But I can also speak from experience: I lost my mother when I was 9. Had she not stayed at home for 6 years I wouldn't have had the few memories that I have.

But what I said are facts about people I know, not necessarily my friends. And trust me, do I feel great about my choice? It's wasn't my choice, my wife wanted to stay home and I accepted it.

Either way, let's keep talking about who does what for a living! And happy burning!
 
Thanks Andrew, 2 girls (11 and 7) and 2 boys (5 and 2) they keep us active.==c

Goats are good pets, we had one a few years back and she was great, almost dog like personality. She passed and we got 2 more, sisters, they're good but not as friendly because they have each other to keep company. We used to raise call ducks, thats a whole other chapter in our life.... :rolleyes:
I bet those kids keep you busy indeed!

See, I was thinking about getting some ducks. Now you're making me second guess my choice!
 
I bet those kids keep you busy indeed!

See, I was thinking about getting some ducks. Now you're making me second guess my choice!

Call ducks are great, a little on the dopey side, but great. I recommend hatching them in a incubator so you can interact with them from day one which will make them very friendly. We had 6 of them, that we let roam free and put in a coop at night, they would follow my kids around, chase the dog and goat, pretty funny. Unfortunately they all died, 4 of them were taken out by hawks 2 of what appeared to be natural causes.
 
Good to know. A friend of mine made a real nice coop out of old barn boards and offered to let me use it. I may just take him up on the offer! I think pet ducks would be great! How long do they live?

Andrew
 
This seems to be my experience as well and it holds true for my family. My wife and I both have summers off and our two kids both have the daycare experience, but because our schedules for work match school schedules, they don't go to daycare very much after they are school age.

Would we like more time with our kids? Sure, but we definitely recognize that we have it better than about 90% of other parents, so we don't complain.

Also, people complain about transferring morals and values like its only possible to do so if you have 100% of your kids' adult interaction. Just not true. Daycare ain't Walmart, a diligent daycare consumer does a lot of work to choose their daycare provider. We have been extremely lucky to have consistent providers who are very close friends, almost family, who live a few doors down and share our values and morals. These are the people our kids would be exposed to on a regular basis even if they weren't in daycare. Our current daycare provider lives caddy-corner to her brother (a very good friend of mine) and two houses down from her parents (they always say how they see me as their son). She literally lives around the corner from us, we walk our daughter home from daycare.

Takes a community to raise a child, I always say.
YOu're in a great situation to be able to have a daycare with family members so close!! My wife wanted to stay at home so I support her decision. It's only for 4 years and time goes fast (already passed the halfway point) and then she will return to work...

Where I live we have government subsidized daycares for $7 a day. It's a pretty cheap deal and that is why everyone takes advantage of it and sends their kids.

Andrew
 
YOu're in a great situation to be able to have a daycare with family members so close!! My wife wanted to stay at home so I support her decision. It's only for 4 years and time goes fast (already passed the halfway point) and then she will return to work...

Where I live we have government subsidized daycares for $7 a day. It's a pretty cheap deal and that is why everyone takes advantage of it and sends their kids.

Andrew

Canada has a far better economy for working folks. Working folks here are usually a couple paychecks from disaster.
 
Good to know. A friend of mine made a real nice coop out of old barn boards and offered to let me use it. I may just take him up on the offer! I think pet ducks would be great! How long do they live?

Andrew

About 10 years or so if nothing gets them first.
 
Louis: THat is quite the story!!! That is why you are rich right now.. he he. James Bay projects were always well paid jobs.

Retire at 75 like me. ;)

Andrew
Hehe, you're right, with all those year on the road i am rich of all kind of story about my adventure across north america, you'll be surprises how entertaninf i can be !!!

And money wise, i was only in eastman-1, james bay for 6 months, just enough to finish paying some cegep loan and the fisrt piece of land I bought in Bonaventure est !!! And hourray for liberty 75 !!
 
Do you really think so? I am fairly unfamiliar with the US economy other than what we see on TV. That and the fact that your gas/milk is much cheaper than ours. lol.

Things have gotten tougher for folks since the 80's. Wages have gone down, pensions are just about nonexistent. I'd say that Canadians are lucky, but they should look at us and learn. Things like deregulation eliminated millions of jobs. Nafta killed a lot of jobs. It's a lot tougher for young folks than it was for my generation.
 
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Do you really think so? I am fairly unfamiliar with the US economy other than what we see on TV. That and the fact that your gas/milk is much cheaper than ours. lol.
A couple? That's generous. Most are probably 1 away.
 
i don't want to drag this thread into the ash can, but my feeling is it's the result of a number of things. deregulation of banks, increasing personal debt, shrinking unions, outsourcing...the middle class has been undermined. i used to think it was intentional, but now i just think the wealthy elite in this country are more interested in their own success than america's. consumerism is a symptom.
 
i don't want to drag this thread into the ash can, but my feeling is it's the result of a number of things. deregulation of banks, increasing personal debt, shrinking unions, outsourcing...the middle class has been undermined. i used to think it was intentional, but now i just think the wealthy elite in this country are more interested in their own success than america's. consumerism is a symptom.

I used to think that conservatives simply didn't understand that some folks had a tougher row to hoe than people like us. I now realize I was naive. The rightwing folks, especially the neocons, simply don't care. It's the Ayn Rand thing - I got mine, folk you! I used to be good friends with a manager I worked for - a guy with a Harvard MBA. 30 years ago, we used to drink beer and bs together. But then I saw him getting more hard core, angry at anybody who disagreed with him, and his politics. As time went on, he seemed to suspect politics in everything we did at work, thinking that the union guys were spying on management. ( I never understood what we would spy on?) All the managers seemed to go this way, to one extent or the other. One even told a bunch of us, "If I am going to get promoted, I need to be an poophead". He got promoted!! We went from being a team organization, same cafeteria, parking lot, open door, same uniforms, to seperate everything. My favorite was when management got concerned about their own workplace safety. The built a escape pod into the plant, the top 3 guys, and 2 secretaries- the secretaries had the function of having panick buttons that shut bullet proof glass doors protecting the big 3 guys. They even put in a executive bathroom, and shower setup there, so the top 3 guys didn't have to use common facilities. And their own exit, so they never had to encouter anybody, unless they wanted too. Meanwhile, 150 engineers were left undefended, no bullet proof glass for the unwashed. And the 150 engineers had to share a 3 hole john with a couple hundred factory workers. The engineers, although salary, had to card in and out, and if they didn't spend at least 9 hours per day in the plant, it went against them. No OT for those folks, tho. And they seemed surprised when engineers simply quit...
 
I work for the guvment and do not feel comfortable listing my title or agency. It SUCKS 90 percent of the time. The other ten percent of the time is when I am in the bathroom or at lunch. I really do like the guys I work with though. I am here for the special retirement provisions I receive as an LE Officer. I can't leave because I have too much time invested and am now institutionalized with no marketable skills that would earn me even close to $27 an hour plus unlimited OT. I have also worked as a bouncer in college, farmhand, tow truck driver, and was in the Army as well. My ideal job might be farming, but I was kept out of that due to family politics.

I did a short stint in heavy construction building a water treatment plant one Christmas break. That cured me of wanting to work in the trades, and further reinforced my opinion that management people are pretty much retards or scumbags. Those a-holes hired me, a 21 year old kid with no family or kids. The next day they laid off one of the main equipment operators with four kids, and this was 2-3 weeks before Christmas.
 
What is an LE Officer?

Your story about laying off a family man 2-3 weeks before Christmas is terrible.

Looks like you have tried various areas of employment and found a career! That is good!

Andrew
 
I'm thinking Law Enforcement.
 
We usually hear PO here in the US too. I'm just curious what agency hew works for that he "uncomfortable" about sharing. Maybe ATF or IRS?
 
Or maybe the dreaded Post Office. ;) Just kidding . . . I learned a long time ago not to mess with the Post Office . . . they've always looking . . . seriously . . . wrote a humorous article about the Post Office and the next thing I knew my Aunt who works for the Post Office was calling me up . . . turns out someone made the connection between me being her nephew and wanted to know if she "could do something about the column." True story.
 
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