Oak Planting Question

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First we live in zone 5, we would like to plant some oak on our property, which oak would you go with?


Zap
 
What kind of soil do you have? Being the foothills of the Adirondacks I am guessing sandy. We have heavy wet clay here and I plant Pin Oak which seams to do quite well.
 
Sandy, I've been doing some quick reading on it, seems like Red Oak does well if planted correct.


zap
 
Up this way I mostly see white and red oak.
 
kenny chaos said:
zapny said:
First we live in zone 5, we would like to plant some oak on our property, which oak would you go with?


Zap


Any native oak? That would be the best to duplicate.
+1, That's where I would start. If they are growing out there in your woods Zap, it's a good bet they will do well in your yard.
 
We have found one oak on our neighbors property just over our line, none in the woods I cut on so I'll try and find out what type it is.


zap
 
Zap,
According to my tree books, Northern Red Oak and Black Oak look like your best bet. Their range totally encompass the Adirondacks.
A lot of others seem to be at the edge of their range for the Adirondacks.
Swamp White Oak, Scarlet Oak, Chesnut Oak, Chinkapin Oak, Pin Oak, Post Oak,
Steve
 
tfdchief said:
Zap,
According to my tree books, Northern Red Oak and Black Oak look like your best bet. Their range totally encompass the Adirondacks.
A lot of others seem to be at the edge of their range for the Adirondacks.
Swamp White Oak, Scarlet Oak, Chesnut Oak, Chinkapin Oak, Pin Oak, Post Oak,
Steve


Thanks Steve, at work after I put the subject up I did some quick searching, I'll send you the links tomorrow, pretty much confirms what you just said.


zap
 
Zap, I'm thinking red oak or even more specifically, pin oak. It seems that the pin oaks should do well on the lower parts. Red oak up higher.
 
I planted the Northern Red Oak (6), I planted 3 on the lower part of our property, one up top and the last two on the property around the house.

The digging went well except on Rocky Top, pic 7431, I also might have brushed up against some PI in that area.

Tomorrow will be spent opening up another trail then make a trail to the downed beech.
 

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I use that same fence to keep the deer off the evergreens planted around the house in the Winter.
They and/or the rabbits have taken a fancy to some hostas I planted around an old huge oak so I wouldn't have to cut the grass near it.
 
I use that same fence to keep the deer off the evergreens planted around the house in the Winter.
They and/or the rabbits have taken a fancy to some hostas I planted around an old huge oak so I wouldn't have to cut the grass near it.
We'll see how many live, I still have more acorns that I'll be planting tomorrow. I think at the start of this week they're calling for some rain which should help, not one hole I dug had sitting water in it.
 
Red oaks and pin oaks are pretty hardy.
I've transplanted a few.
I don't have a lot of luck with white oaks. They don't like having their roots disturbed at all. Especially the tap root. Reds don't seem to mind losing a bit.

Too wet to do much here today after Andrea. If I hadn't spent the better part of the day ripping a small bar/kitchen out of the house my sister is going to move into I would have been cutting up some Winter damage maple or pine. It won't go anywhere.
 
Red oaks and pin oaks are pretty hardy.
I've transplanted a few.
I don't have a lot of luck with white oaks. They don't like having their roots disturbed at all. Especially the tap root. Reds don't seem to mind losing a bit.

Too wet to do much here today after Andrea. If I hadn't spent the better part of the day ripping a small bar/kitchen out of the house my sister is going to move into I would have been cutting up some Winter damage maple or pine. It won't go anywhere.
How much rain did you get?
 
How much rain did you get?
supposedly just 4 inches
my rain gauge only does two inches

I've got open 6x4.5 gutters and at times they overflowed

some plants are pummeled and beat pretty bad

one of the neighbors tore up his front yard and planted seed Mem weekend and it looks like quite a bit of it is out in the street
 
Just 4"?:eek: That would be several months rain here at this time of year.
 
Zap,
For future acorn planting, I'd look for a mast tree in the area and collect its acorns. That should give you the trees that will do best in your niche. We have two huge oak (my two boys in their teens joined hands and hugged the tree...got around less than 2/3 of the circumference) and a maple about 40 inch diameter on the property. Nice to encourage reproduction from such grand trees.
 
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Zap,
For future acorn planting, I'd look for a mast tree in the area and collect its acorns. That should give you the trees that will do best in your niche. We have two huge oak (my two boys in their teens joined hands and hugged the tree...got around less than 2/3 of the circumference) and a maple about 40 inch diameter on the property. Nice to encourage reproduction from such grand trees.
There is one up at the church, I'll check it this fall.
 
What is that they say, an optimist plants two acorns and buys a hammock. >>
 
My gauge on the driveway was a Tulip Poplar tiny sapling when we moved here 28 years ago. After 24 years it was about fifteen feet tall and maybe two inches around.

When the electric company whacked it.
 
This should take care of the watering for this week.

A SLOW MOVING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL BRING THE CONTINUED THREAT
OF RAIN TO THE REGION TUESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY. TOTAL RAINFALL
AMOUNTS THROUGH WEDNESDAY ARE EXPECTED TO RANGE FROM 1 TO 2
INCHES...WITH SOME LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS POSSIBLE. THIS COMBINED
WITH ANTECEDENT ELEVATED SOIL MOISTURE CONDITIONS WILL LEAD TO
GRADUAL RIVER RISES. AT THIS TIME HOWEVER...NO FLOODING OF MAINSTEM
RIVERS IS ANTICIPATED.
 
Depends on what you want the oak to do- provide wood, provide shade, be a good food source for critters...

Something native and local will do best, but there are some that are better than others for specific needs. (criiters prefer white for food, but I *think* that red grows faster...
 
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