2018-19 Blaze King Performance Thread Part 1 (Everything BK)

[jetsam]

I hope I wont have too much draft problem but just for out of curiosity, can you put damper for an insert or it is for free standing stoves?

You would need to pull the insert or go up onto the roof to adjust it.... but it seems possible.

How do insert owners usually handle excessive draft?

 

[bholler]

You would need to pull the insert or go up onto the roof to adjust it.... but it seems possible.

How do insert owners usually handle excessive draft?

I have done a few where i made a linkage that went through the face.

 

[jetsam]

I have done a few where i made a linkage that went through the face.

And the damper was right there in the fireplace right on top of the insert, I guess? That sounds like a good answer.

 

[chemie]

What are the signs of too much draft? Less burn time?

 

[jetsam]

What are the signs of too much draft? Less burn time?

With a BK, I would say that if you turn the thermostat down all the way to the stop and the cat doesn't eventually go inactive, first check for air leaks (door gasket especially), and then check your draft.

Honestly, people here have those stoves on really tall flues (Ashful for instance) and seem to get by pretty well.

With a non-thermostatic stove, yes, low burn time and hotter than expected fires even on low air settings .

 

[bholler]

And the damper was right there in the fireplace right on top of the insert, I guess? That sounds like a good answer.

I attached a standard fireplace twist damper handle to the end of the linkage. It came through a hole drilled in the surround for the insert

 

[BKVP]

The entire stove industry is advocating for operating the stove on a higher burn rate upon initial loading. The goal is of course to drive out moisture at higher operating temperatures and as a by product reduce emissions. This will also make wood burners look better in minds of non wood burners.

In our units, burning hot helps eliminate or at least reduce creosote in the firebox. Depending upon many variables, the need to do so will vary with frequency and duration.

 

[jetsam]

I think if I'd needed that, I would have had to look up the word 'fabricate' for the install crew and then explain the concept to them. And then do it myself after they left.

 

[jetsam]

The entire stove industry is advocating for operating the stove on a higher burn rate upon initial loading. The goal is of course to drive out moisture at higher operating temperatures and as a by product reduce emissions. This will also make wood burners look better in minds of non wood burners.

In our units, burning hot helps eliminate or at least reduce creosote in the firebox. Depending upon many variables, the need to do so will vary with frequency and duration.

Do you think tube stove manufacturers going to meet 2020 standards by getting rid of the low burn ranges on their stoves? I wonder how much choice they have.

 

[jetsam]

General stove question: I know Stove Brite comes highly recommended for touch-ups.

How about RustOleum high heat flat black? It is supposedly good to 2000°F, is $15 cheaper, and I can get a can today instead of waiting a week for shipping.

I have some light surface rust from boiling tea in stainless steel mugs on the stove. No regrets, plan to do it again this year.

 

[bholler]

General stove question: I know Stove Brite comes highly recommended for touch-ups.

How about RustOleum high heat flat black? It is supposedly good to 2000°F, is $15 cheaper, and I can get a can today instead of waiting a week for shipping.

I have some light surface rust from boiling tea in stainless steel mugs on the stove. No regrets, plan to do it again this year.

It is horrible. Get stovebrit or aw perkins. I prefer perkins but stovebrite is certainly good.

 

[bholler]

Do you think tube stove manufacturers going to meet 2020 standards by getting rid of the low burn ranges on their stoves? I wonder how much choice they have.

There are some that already meet the new standards .

 

[BKVP]

Do you think tube stove manufacturers going to meet 2020 standards by getting rid of the low burn ranges on their stoves? I wonder how much choice they have.

I'm not certain how it will be satisfied. I would think the turn down rate (low end) would be effected, but really can't tell you.

 

[SuperJ]

Anecdotally is looks like the min BTU are the same or higher on the newer stoves. Not sure if it's statistically significant though.
I'm not really confident the BTU range for the EPA test translates into the real world very directly. But it's always fun to look at numbers and nitpick.

https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2017-08/usepa-certified-wood-heater-list.xlsx

 

[black smoke signals]

What are the signs of too much draft? Less burn time. Most wood stove dealers sell there customers Vacu Stack Chimney caps as a high wind cap in my area not sure if this cap is Blazeking approved.
https://www.woodlanddirect.com/Chim...ey-Caps/Vacu-Stack-Wind-Resistant-Chimney-Cap

 

[black smoke signals]

I would try this first over a damper above the insert

 

[bholler]

I would try this first over a damper above the insert

Those do not reduce draft until they clog up with crap. And they are a pita to clean then

 

[black smoke signals]

I guess I was sold on there claiming it helps draft but if you were in my area You would be installing that damper for me.

 

[MissMac]

Has anybody living in the boreal done any experimenting to figure out the burn time difference running a load of jack pine vs a load of white birch, under similar weather conditions and on the same dial setting? I think i'm gonna take a crack at it and see what i can come up with. I'd be curious to know if anyone has any similar results to share? First good blizzard here today - could be 10-25cm on the ground by the time it's done!

 

[Diabel]

Bholler,

Have you hooked up the Princess yet? I am interested in your input.

 

[Diabel]

Has anybody living in the boreal done any experimenting to figure out the burn time difference running a load of jack pine vs a load of white birch, under similar weather conditions and on the same dial setting? I think i'm gonna take a crack at it and see what i can come up with. I'd be curious to know if anyone has any similar results to share? First good blizzard here today - could be 10-25cm on the ground by the time it's done!

The weather is messed up. 35*C with humidity here yesterday, 32 today and calling for flurries on Sat!!

 

[showrguy]

Bholler,

Have you hooked up the Princess yet? I am interested in your input.

Yea, what he said !!
And it looks like your gonna need it this weekend..
I'm coming by your place tomorrow..

 

[chemie]

General stove question: I know Stove Brite comes highly recommended for touch-ups.

How about RustOleum high heat flat black? It is supposedly good to 2000°F, is $15 cheaper, and I can get a can today instead of waiting a week for shipping.

I have some light surface rust from boiling tea in stainless steel mugs on the stove. No regrets, plan to do it again this year.

Some more general questions : Can you put a pot containing water with a few drops of essential oils with on the top surface of BK insert (Ashford 25) to add humidity to the room?
Would top of the insert get so hot to roast chestnut from the tree across my house ?( I admit that is a bit odd to ask)
Does anyone use heat operated stove top fans on top of an insert when they want a break from the insert’s own fan’s noise?
Speaking of the insert fan, do you run insert fan at max when you run your stove at high and insert fan at low when stove is running low? Or is there any correlation? I assume fan is not thermostatically controlled.
I was at a meeting when I started typing the questions above and now in a subway and keep getting notifications. So excuse me if the conversation diverted into something else.

 

[BKVP]

I guess I was sold on there claiming it helps draft but if you were in my area You would be installing that damper for me.

I am 100% confident if we clone bholler we can all sleep better at night!!

 

[bholler]

I guess I was sold on there claiming it helps draft but if you were in my area You would be installing that damper for me.

It actually increases draft with wind. And prevents downdrafts caused by wind. It is a good product if you have some specific problems but in most cases they will offer no benifit and be hard to clean.