Corona Virus

[RFarm]

If a rapid test for SARS-CoV-2 (the real name of this virus, the WHO renamed it COVID-19 to reduce fear and panic as the label SARS conjures up fear) would enable us to end these quarantines and shelter in place ordinances. We would need to be tested weekly for about 3 months at one of thousands of drive up locations. Tests would be instantaneous. If negative you get a wrist band stating your testing date and when your next one is due. If positive you go to a recovery center where you get treatment and daily testing. Once clear you return to your life. This would be a slight inconvenience compared to this insanity we are dealing with now.

 

[begreen]

If a rapid test for SARS-CoV-2 (the real name of this virus, the WHO renamed it COVID-19 to reduce fear and panic as the label SARS conjures up fear) would enable us to end these quarantines and shelter in place ordinances. We would need to be tested weekly for about 3 months at one of thousands of drive up locations. Tests would be instantaneous. If negative you get a wrist band stating your testing date and when your next one is due. If positive you go to a recovery center where you get treatment and daily testing. Once clear you return to your life. This would be a slight inconvenience compared to this insanity we are dealing with now.

Eventually, that is the goal, but we are several months from that point. In the near term the situation will get worse, due to shortages, lack of preparation and fast action.

Imports of medical supplies plummet as demand in US soars

The critical shortage of medical supplies across the U.S., including testing swabs, protective masks, surgical gowns and hand sanitizer, can be tied to a sudden drop in imports, mostly from China, The Associated Press has found.

apnews.com

 

[begreen]

Honestly I think that is a possibility. But the blame game can come later, right now we need to stop it first.

There is genetic proof that this came from the wild.

COVID-19 coronavirus epidemic has a natural origin

An analysis of public genome sequence data from SARS-CoV-2 and related viruses found no evidence that the virus was made in a laboratory or otherwise engineered.

www.sciencedaily.com

 

[Medic21]

If a rapid test for SARS-CoV-2 (the real name of this virus, the WHO renamed it COVID-19 to reduce fear and panic as the label SARS conjures up fear) would enable us to end these quarantines and shelter in place ordinances. We would need to be tested weekly for about 3 months at one of thousands of drive up locations. Tests would be instantaneous. If negative you get a wrist band stating your testing date and when your next one is due. If positive you go to a recovery center where you get treatment and daily testing. Once clear you return to your life. This would be a slight inconvenience compared to this insanity we are dealing with now.

Locally, one health system is gearing up to test in their own lab with a rapid test they developed and have approval for. Today they can do 500 a day by Tuesday they will have a 5000 a day capacity by spreading it out to their whole network. Our competitive healthcare systems are hopefully going to work together and between the big three it should allow for over 10,000 tests, in house, a day in Indiana.

I’m not to worried for the majority of people that get this. So far all I have seen have been very mild but, by testing that much we can quarantine those infected. If even only at home it will limit spread greatly. If we can do that on a large scale nationwide we can stop this in a month.

 

[kennyp2339]

Living in NJ I have to hand it to governor Cuomo for some of the best news updates, I wish my governor or even the president could speak like how he speaks, I'm not a supporter of the NY governor, but I have to give credit when credit is due.

 

[Seasoned Oak]

I'm not a supporter of the NY governor, but I have to give credit when credit is due.

He does seem to be able to convey a sense of urgency without the panic. Quite a fine needle to thread.

 

[ABMax24]

There is genetic proof that this came from the wild.

COVID-19 coronavirus epidemic has a natural origin

An analysis of public genome sequence data from SARS-CoV-2 and related viruses found no evidence that the virus was made in a laboratory or otherwise engineered.

www.sciencedaily.com

Just because it is from natural origin doesn't mean it couldn't have come from a lab. We have labs here in Canada that have almost every virus known to man stored inside them for research. It does mean that it wasn't modified to inflict more damage on the general population. Although I do agree that coming from nature is the most probable source. But I digress, where it came from isn't really relevant right now, stopping it is.

 

[RFarm]

There is genetic proof that this came from the wild.

COVID-19 coronavirus epidemic has a natural origin

An analysis of public genome sequence data from SARS-CoV-2 and related viruses found no evidence that the virus was made in a laboratory or otherwise engineered.

www.sciencedaily.com

Early on , Indian virologists identifies a protein from the AIDS virus contained in the SARS-Cov-19 virus. It also contains proteins from the SARS virus family. It is quite apparent that this is a man made virus. The mainstream media is owned by four people and that do not want you to know the truth. The only questions we need answered are 1.) Who created this 2) Who is responsible for its release 3) Was it released intentionally. It is very concerning that the AIDS virus is part of this as it has no cure and can lie latent for decades. Folks a vaccine or cure is not really a reality with today’s technology. Prepare for big pharmaceutical companies to be our bedfellows for the foreseeable future. More toxic drugs are going to be offered to us and possibly forced into us than ever before.

 

[Seasoned Oak]

Locally, one health system is gearing up to test in their own lab with a rapid test they developed and have approval for. Today they can do 500 a day by Tuesday they will have a 5000 a day capacity by spreading it

Geisinger can do their own testing in their own labs as well. They also have been sending some test out. A woman from my town is currently waiting 6 days for test results that were sent somewhere in california. That kind of delay is not going to work.
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[Sodbuster]

My daughter is waiting 5 days after initially testing negative for Influenza. If that test is negative, they send it on for Covid testing, but it still takes 5 days. She should have her results on Tuesday. We've been dropping off food on the front porch, and she retrieves it once she leaves. Anyone else wearing gloves and masks to the store, if you need to go?

 

[Medic21]

This is from my Cousin who is a Pediatric Infectious Disease Specialist.


“Covid-19 is spreading quickly. I don’t mean this post to sound harsh or rude, but we as a country are at a crossroad. We HAVE to change how we live our daily lives now. PLEASE STAY HOME if at all possible. I understand we all need things from the grocery. If this is the case, try your best to find a way to go without taking your kids in to the store. We know that children frequently have mild or no symptoms with covid-19. This means that your child may be unknowingly spreading the virus to others at high risk.

We know now that covid-19 is worse than influenza at this time. People have ZERO immunity to covid-19 because it is a new strain of coronavirus. There is no vaccine. There is no great treatment. Yes, various drugs are being trialed, but we don’t know yet how effective these are.

I am not advocating that we all live in a state of high anxiety about covid-19. I am asking that we all use our God given brains and common sense to do what we can to slow the virus. It will pass. We will get through this as China is now. BUT...how many lives will be lost along the way? Please be smart and think twice about your daily activities. “

I can say people are being sensible from a standpoint of 911 calls being down 60% in our area. Let’s hope it stands and people continue to use common sense and remain home with minor illnesses. That is the key right now.

 

[Medic21]

My daughter is waiting 5 days after initially testing negative for Influenza. If that test is negative, they send it on for Covid testing, but it still takes 5 days. She should have her results on Tuesday. We've been dropping off food on the front porch, and she retrieves it once she leaves. Anyone else wearing gloves and masks to the store, if you need to go?

You wearing a mask really won’t do much unless it’s a sealed N95. Gloves are ok but, this doesn’t cross the skin so hand washing is effective. If you don’t touch the routes of entry. Gloves may even give you a false sense of security. Outside of aerosol generating procedure, nebulizers, high flow oxygen masks, CPAP BiPAP, or ventilators the disease is not airborne other than droplets.

I would suggest gowns and distancing or just if you have to go out change and wash clothes immediately.

 

[begreen]

Early on , Indian virologists identifies a protein from the AIDS virus contained in the SARS-Cov-19 virus. It also contains proteins from the SARS virus family. It is quite apparent that this is a man made virus. The mainstream media is owned by four people and that do not want you to know the truth. The only questions we need answered are 1.) Who created this 2) Who is responsible for its release 3) Was it released intentionally. It is very concerning that the AIDS virus is part of this as it has no cure and can lie latent for decades. Folks a vaccine or cure is not really a reality with today’s technology. Prepare for big pharmaceutical companies to be our bedfellows for the foreseeable future. More toxic drugs are going to be offered to us and possibly forced into us than ever before.

Claims like these should not be made without substantial supporting documentation. Otherwise, it is tinfoil hat territory.

 

[begreen]

I would suggest gowns and distancing or just if you have to go out change and wash clothes immediately.

And take a shower. If you can't wash your clothes, hang them out in the sunshine. Or at least don't touch them for a day.

 

[Medic21]

And take a shower. If you can't wash your clothes, hang them out in the sunshine. Or at least don't touch them for a day.

My standard for coming home from working EMS for the last two decades has been the following. I NEVER wear a uniform out of station. Those clothes go in a bag and go in the washer as soon as I walk in the door. I usually workout on the way home so those clothes go in with it and I take a shower. Only after that do I hug the kids or anything else. Those habits are perfect for now, except I shower before and after the gym now.

This is not the first virus or even the ones I worry about most days. There are a whole host of illnesses and creepy crawlers I come in contact with daily lol.

 

[festerw]

Just because it is from natural origin doesn't mean it couldn't have come from a lab. We have labs here in Canada that have almost every virus known to man stored inside them for research. It does mean that it wasn't modified to inflict more damage on the general population. Although I do agree that coming from nature is the most probable source. But I digress, where it came from isn't really relevant right now, stopping it is.

Early on , Indian virologists identifies a protein from the AIDS virus contained in the SARS-Cov-19 virus. It also contains proteins from the SARS virus family. It is quite apparent that this is a man made virus. The mainstream media is owned by four people and that do not want you to know the truth. The only questions we need answered are 1.) Who created this 2) Who is responsible for its release 3) Was it released intentionally. It is very concerning that the AIDS virus is part of this as it has no cure and can lie latent for decades. Folks a vaccine or cure is not really a reality with today’s technology. Prepare for big pharmaceutical companies to be our bedfellows for the foreseeable future. More toxic drugs are going to be offered to us and possibly forced into us than ever before.

Claims like these should not be made without substantial supporting documentation. Otherwise, it is tinfoil hat territory.

There is no evidence. The virus has mechanisms SIMILAR to HIV in the way it attacks and binds to human protein.

Covid-19 far more likely than Sars to bond to human cells due to HIV-like mutation, scientists say

HONG KONG — The new coronavirus has a HIV-like mutation that means its ability to bind with human cells could be up to 1,000 times as strong as the Sars virus, according to new research by scientists in China and Europe.

www.todayonline.com

The genome of the virus has been sequenced and there is no evidence that the virus was engineered or modified by humans.

COVID-19 coronavirus epidemic has a natural origin

An analysis of public genome sequence data from SARS-CoV-2 and related viruses found no evidence that the virus was made in a laboratory or otherwise engineered.

www.sciencedaily.com

 

[ABMax24]

Early on , Indian virologists identifies a protein from the AIDS virus contained in the SARS-Cov-19 virus. It also contains proteins from the SARS virus family. It is quite apparent that this is a man made virus. The mainstream media is owned by four people and that do not want you to know the truth. The only questions we need answered are 1.) Who created this 2) Who is responsible for its release 3) Was it released intentionally. It is very concerning that the AIDS virus is part of this as it has no cure and can lie latent for decades. Folks a vaccine or cure is not really a reality with today’s technology. Prepare for big pharmaceutical companies to be our bedfellows for the foreseeable future. More toxic drugs are going to be offered to us and possibly forced into us than ever before.

Essentially, the scientists found that yes, there are some additions in the nCoV coronavirus originating in Wuhan that other coronaviruses don’t have, which are similar to pieces of sequence found in HIV. But, the kicker here is that these pieces of genetic code are also found in countless other viruses and there’s no reason to believe they specifically came from HIV, at all.

No, The Coronavirus Was Not Genetically Engineered To Put Pieces Of HIV In It

A recent scientific paper published on pre-print server bioRxiv made some very odd claims about HIV and coronavirus that were quickly debunked by other scientists.

www.forbes.com

 

[ABMax24]

There is no evidence. The virus has mechanisms SIMILAR to HIV in the way it attacks and binds to human protein.

Covid-19 far more likely than Sars to bond to human cells due to HIV-like mutation, scientists say

HONG KONG — The new coronavirus has a HIV-like mutation that means its ability to bind with human cells could be up to 1,000 times as strong as the Sars virus, according to new research by scientists in China and Europe.

www.todayonline.com

The genome of the virus has been sequenced and there is no evidence that the virus was engineered or modified by humans.

COVID-19 coronavirus epidemic has a natural origin

An analysis of public genome sequence data from SARS-CoV-2 and related viruses found no evidence that the virus was made in a laboratory or otherwise engineered.

www.sciencedaily.com

Not really sure why you quoted my post, I said I didn't believe it was man made.

 

[festerw]

Not really sure why you quoted my post, I said I didn't believe it was man made.

My fault misread what you wrote in the one sentence.

 

[RFarm]

Believe what you want to believe and trust whatever sources you feel you can trust. With a couple thousand bucks, a CRISPR machine and a little genetic knowledge, anyone can create a deadly virus. There are independent labs all over the world with this capability and there are quite a few level 4 super labs like the one in Wuhan. Truth is we will never know the truth, we will just accept whatever explanation gains the most popularity and move on. My only piece of advice is avoid getting this thing at all costs.

 

[begreen]

Believe what you want to believe and trust whatever sources you feel you can trust. With a couple thousand bucks, a CRISPR machine and a little genetic knowledge, anyone can create a deadly virus. There are independent labs all over the world with this capability and there are quite a few level 4 super labs like the one in Wuhan. Truth is we will never know the truth, we will just accept whatever explanation gains the most popularity and move on. My only piece of advice is avoid getting this thing at all costs.

Speculation helps no one, even the paper mentioned just speculated. Some publications will do almost anything to gain temporary attention and ad dollars. Caveat emptor.

PS: As the article states, the paper was immediately panned by experts around the world and retracted from biology journal server bioRxiv on Sunday. It was essentially, speculative disinformation and definitely not peer-reviewed.

 

[Seasoned Oak]

Speculation helps no one.

Unless it turns out to be true. Something to be seriously looked into once this is over.

 

[Sodbuster]

If this does turn out to be something concocted in lab and then released, that would be considered an act of war. We know the Chinese consider themselves to be overpopulated and killed any second born child up until 2015 when a second child was allowed, maybe it was an experiment that they lost control over.

 

[blades]

if that's the case it is the 3rd orso in the last 40 or so years. Is China at fault? Read the history about wet markets ( not just the china ones) and China's repsones to there own famine a bunch of years back. It will be enlightening and dispel the weaponizing theories. Also might want to bone up on the history of SARS and MRSE while you are at it. Do that and you will have a pretty good picture of reality. Ebola is another to read up on. got no bone to pick i just try to get relevant information not media hype.

 

[begreen]

If this does turn out to be something concocted in lab and then released, that would be considered an act of war. We know the Chinese consider themselves to be overpopulated and killed any second born child up until 2015 when a second child was allowed, maybe it was an experiment that they lost control over.

This is just plain xenophobic and really unfounded. It is this kind of speculation that leads to unintended consequences.