Have we reached a tipping point?

[Ashful]

...if true china may be in the process of accidentally decimating its population with its own Bio weapon.

“Oops... sorry about that, folks.”

 

[Seasoned Oak]

Such a deadly virus, yet only affecting one part of the world that isn't friendly with other parts. This is more than an outbreak, especially since it comes at such a time of high political unrest in China.

Some connection to the practice of poaching endangered pangolins reported as an intermediary transmitter. One of the many whacky beliefs the chinese have for certain animal species for supposed
health benefits like rhino horn, shark fin soup,bear gall bladder ect .

 

[vinny11950]

More bad news.

Antarctica hits 69 degrees days after record-breaking heat

Just days before, Antartica reached 65°F.

www.axios.com

 

[begreen]

A new report by the IMF goes to the heart of the problem, fossil fuel subsidies. This is where change needs to start.

United States Spend Ten Times More On Fossil Fuel Subsidies Than Education

Amidst reports of a continuing climate crisis, an International Monetary Fund study released last month shows that USD$5.2 trillion was spent globally on fossil fuel subsidies in 2017. The United States has spent more subsidizing fossil fuels in recent years than it has on defense or education.

www.forbes.com

 

[WinterinWI]

I wonder if these are the same mistakes the dinosaurs made, not considering things like this, which ultimately led to their demise.

 

[begreen]

The dinosaurs were wiped out by a huge asteroid impact, but you already knew that. That would solve the current issue, by setting humanity back a few hundred thousand years that is.

 

[Ashful]

 

[semipro]

I always found this version funny...on various levels.

 

[Seasoned Oak]

Looks like the virus death rate is ticking up over 3%.

 

[begreen]

Still getting warmer in Siberia. Temps in the Arctic will be 36º above normal this week.

It Hit 80 Degrees in the Arctic This Week

This story will provide important context for the headline, and I encourage you to read it—but really, the headline tells you what you need to know: It was 80 degrees Fahrenheit above the Arctic Circle this week.

earther.gizmodo.com

 

[Sodbuster]

IMHO the earth waxes and wanes, in giant cycles. At some point North America was covered in a giant glacier, then it melted, way before man came along. I'm not sure what the answer is, but I think that while we can do some things to slow the pattern, it will continue as it always has.

 

[begreen]

IMHO the earth waxes and wanes, in giant cycles. At some point North America was covered in a giant glacier, then it melted, way before man came along. I'm not sure what the answer is, but I think that while we can do some things to slow the pattern, it will continue as it always has.

This CO2 cycle has not been seen for some millions of years. It is a manmade phenomenon this time around, but agreed, nature will rebalance eventually. The planet may need to get rid of the virus called humanity that is infecting it right now, but eventually it will recover.

 

[Ctwoodtick]

This CO2 cycle has not been seen for some millions of years. It is a manmade phenomenon this time around, but agreed, nature will rebalance eventually. The planet may need to get rid of the virus called humanity that is infecting it right now, but eventually it will recover.

George Carlin has a great routine about this. He said “ The planet is fine....The people are fu**ed”.
I don’t know how people can’t wrap their heads around global warming. Carbon in the atmosphere acts as an insulator. There is more carbon released in the atmosphere now than in pre- fossil fuel usage era. C’mon folks- this is not that hard. You don’t have to fall for that bait that says to believe in global climate change makes you anti- American. You can think on your own if you so choose. But please listen to science and don’t be brainwashed by the big corporate machine, which has had you equating following their agenda with being “American”. If that sounds too lefty for you, please consider all the businesses of the past that have been very harmful to people- but concealed the actual danger knowingly at the time.
It’s no wonder- Bear in mind, our current president likes to make up his own truth- and we see him completely make stuff up daily. Just today I was hearing that he’s completely rolling back environmental restrictions supposedly to boost the economy in light of COVID 19. This guy will tell you anything to push his agenda of “ I win”. Seriously, how does someone put an ounce of trust into someone who came up with the whole “birther” thing ( as one example)? How we have allowed a con-man like this to fool us is completely embarrassing. It will be a very American day when he gets voted out of office and then escorted out of the White House when he refuses to leave.

 

[Sodbuster]

George Carlin has a great routine about this. He said “ The planet is fine....The people are fu**ed”.
I don’t know how people can’t wrap their heads around global warming. Carbon in the atmosphere acts as an insulator. There is more carbon released in the atmosphere now than in pre- fossil fuel usage era. C’mon folks- this is not that hard. You don’t have to fall for that bait that says to believe in global climate change makes you anti- American. You can think on your own if you so choose. But please listen to science and don’t be brainwashed by the big corporate machine, which has had you equating following their agenda with being “American”. If that sounds too lefty for you, please consider all the businesses of the past that have been very harmful to people- but concealed the actual danger knowingly at the time.
It’s no wonder- Bear in mind, our current president likes to make up his own truth- and we see him completely make stuff up daily. Just today I was hearing that he’s completely rolling back environmental restrictions supposedly to boost the economy in light of COVID 19. This guy will tell you anything to push his agenda of “ I win”. Seriously, how does someone put an ounce of trust into someone who came up with the whole “birther” thing ( as one example)? How we have allowed a con-man like this to fool us is completely embarrassing. It will be a very American day when he gets voted out of office and then escorted out of the White House when he refuses to leave.

Well thank you for taking something scientific and making it political. Our climate is constantly changing but does so very slowly. Scientists are mostly funded by grants or by the universities they work for. If there is no problem, or in the case of the scientists fudging the numbers because the data did not agree with their hypothesis, the funding dries up.

NOAA Scientists Falsify Data to Dupe World Leaders on Climate Change

Scientific sleight-of-hand pushed economy-hobbling Paris Agreement.

observer.com

 

[Sodbuster]

This CO2 cycle has not been seen for some millions of years. It is a manmade phenomenon this time around, but agreed, nature will rebalance eventually. The planet may need to get rid of the virus called humanity that is infecting it right now, but eventually it will recover.

Begreen, we'll never agree, but I respect your courtesy and respect. Can you point to those records from millions of years ago? Our meteorologist called for rain all day, today; we had none. But yet they can tell us what the CO2 cycle was millions of years ago. Sorry not buying it.

 

[SpaceBus]

Begreen, we'll never agree, but I respect your courtesy and respect. Can you point to those records from millions of years ago? Our meteorologist called for rain all day, today; we had none. But yet they can tell us what the CO2 cycle was millions of years ago. Sorry not buying it.

Predicting the future is much harder than reading fossil evidence. The past and future are not the same thing or comparable.

 

[begreen]

Well thank you for taking something scientific and making it political. Our climate is constantly changing but does so very slowly. Scientists are mostly funded by grants or by the universities they work for. If there is no problem, or in the case of the scientists fudging the numbers because the data did not agree with their hypothesis, the funding dries up.

NOAA Scientists Falsify Data to Dupe World Leaders on Climate Change

Scientific sleight-of-hand pushed economy-hobbling Paris Agreement.

observer.com

It would be helpful if this was not an opinion piece quoting an article in a British tabloid rag and actual fact. Here is the actual story.

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

 

[begreen]

Begreen, we'll never agree, but I respect your courtesy and respect. Can you point to those records from millions of years ago? Our meteorologist called for rain all day, today; we had none. But yet they can tell us what the CO2 cycle was millions of years ago. Sorry not buying it.

The Last Time CO2 Was This High, Humans Didn't Exist | Climate Central

The amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is approaching a record high for all of human history.

www.climatecentral.org

 

[begreen]

Predicting the future is much harder than reading fossil evidence. The past and future are not the same thing or comparable.

Like weather and climate, meteorology and climate science are not the same things.

 

[vinny11950]

Well this keeps happening...

 

[begreen]

Well this keeps happening...

This has happened repeatedly this year, each time with higher temps. Arctic overheating is one of the predicted concerns for unstoppable global warming. As the permafrost melts, it releases a tremendous amount of methane which is a much more concerning greenhouse gas than CO2. The momentum becomes planetary on a scale that technology can not solve.

 

[andym]

Everyone talks about 'record' temps and ice melt and climate change. Has anyone considered the question of how all the ice got there in the first place? Isn't it true that mammoths, etc are sometimes found frozen in this very ice? Indicating that the ice was not always present, the permafrost was not frozen, etc....This Earth is always changing....I'm much more concerned about the moral and social changes currently being made than all the talk of climate change.

 

[ABMax24]

Everyone talks about 'record' temps and ice melt and climate change. Has anyone considered the question of how all the ice got there in the first place? Isn't it true that mammoths, etc are sometimes found frozen in this very ice? Indicating that the ice was not always present, the permafrost was not frozen, etc....This Earth is always changing....I'm much more concerned about the moral and social changes currently being made than all the talk of climate change.

It's not necessarily the change that is concerning, it's the rate of change. If the earth warms 1 degree over a few thousand years ecosystems at least have a chance to react, and species to adapt or to move to different areas to survive. Warming that same 1 degree in a 100 years doesn't allow nature any chance to cope.

 

[begreen]

We're in a unique circumstance. This is not a gradual change over thousands of years. It's happening over 200 yrs as a direct result of man's discovery and employment of fossil fuels.

 

[CaptSpiff]

This has happened repeatedly this year, each time with higher temps. Arctic overheating is one of the predicted concerns for unstoppable global warming. As the permafrost melts, it releases a tremendous amount of methane which is a much more concerning greenhouse gas than CO2. The momentum becomes planetary on a scale that technology can not solve.

So I think "planetary scale impact" is exactly the motivator that will set loose the "leap in technology" needed for us to survive.

Now whether we all have the same idea or definition about human survival,... that would be an interesting discussion.