Covid-19 check in - How are you doing?
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The Adventures of the Sidney Road Turkey - Franklin Township, NJ (franklin-twp.org) This guy wasn't dumb. He ran this road for months, covered about 1/4 mile harassing cars. Funny as hell. Finally got relocated to a refuge.
not meaning to sound harsh but thinking about what was said about survival take a good look around this world is gearing up for stupid people.
they did arrest him and one of the charges is assault and one more might be a form of terrorism or something on the line
More people are wearing masks than ever before. And yet we have skyrocketing cases. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out masks do not work.
SidecarFlip
Minister of Fire
Far as I'm concerned what does is being a hermit and my wife and I are professionals at it. I have not put gas in my car in at least 2 months. I should start it and let the battery charge up. I use the farm tractors more than the car.. No where to go or at least want to go.
the mask takes the majority of the contagious part out but people don't realize the the mask has a life span so they get the virus or it comes from people who don't wear one they take it home and it spread like wildfire. or you might wear a mask and no gloves and touch something they touched and touch your eye or nose and even tho you wore a mask you get the virus and spread it around for a few days til you finally feel like crap and discover you have it. if nobody wore a mask we would or most of us would have had the virus by now.
SidecarFlip
Minister of Fire
When handling anything, newer touch your eyes, pick your nose or suck your fingers because your head is hollow, not to insult anyone but it is. Everything in your skull is interconnected with sinus passages so you can introduce the virus in a number of ways. Just handling a used mask and touching your eyes can infect you. We wear 4 layer masks my wife made and they go right in the hot water wash when we get home with strong detergent and we us a ton of hand sanitizer (which is also good for starting my manual star pellet burner and cheaper than the Rutland gelled firestarter to boot (and it smells good. The rutland stuff stinks.
So far, so good here. I have a covid test coming up monday morning, I'm 99% sure I'll pass. I better pass, my radiation treatments start the next day. I'm getting 6 which means 5 covid tests. Up my nose with a rubber hose, I mean swab.
So far, so good here. I have a covid test coming up monday morning, I'm 99% sure I'll pass. I better pass, my radiation treatments start the next day. I'm getting 6 which means 5 covid tests. Up my nose with a rubber hose, I mean swab.
Maybe.
I meet many people that are so concerned about wearing a mask, yet have no problem touching things that i just touched.
Very obvious proof that something in they're head isnt working!
(Lack of oxygen from wearing a mask?)
SpaceBus
Minister of Fire
Why would you think the two are related? Correlation is not equal to causation. The cases are spiking because there is more testing than ever before and folks are spending a lot more time indoors and spreading the virus where people aren't wearing mask. The evidence is quite contrary to how you feel, and you can see this in the low transmission rates among elementary students, who are forced to wear masks and follow all the social distancing rules. Adults have more rights and you can't force them to stay in one place and not transmit the disease.
Please don't spread misinformation.
kennyp2339
Minister of Fire
The whole mask issue brings up a valid point in general, I wear a mask when out and about in public area's, I dont wear a mask when home or working alone, one of the overlooked things about mask wearing, especially with cloth masks is to wash them every day and make sure they are dry before wearing, best to keep a few in rotation.
As far as the questionability of how effective they are, I go on medical calls all the time with the fire dept, I haven't contracted anything yet, not even my normal seasonal colds, so I'll take my chance of being a little over protective, rather the latter.
As far as the questionability of how effective they are, I go on medical calls all the time with the fire dept, I haven't contracted anything yet, not even my normal seasonal colds, so I'll take my chance of being a little over protective, rather the latter.
SpaceBus
Minister of Fire
If memory serves then overall influenza cases are also down this season due to mask wearing. In the last few hundred years face masks have been the first line of defense against an airborne/aerosol pathogen.
Medic21
Minister of Fire
If your using a mask to protect yourself then it doesn’t work, that had been proven. They will protect someone from you if your contagious.
Elementary students are just as likely to be asymptomatic as they are to not have it. That is the reason cases are skyrocketing. When 40% of cases have no symptoms and people spread it around without knowing it. That combined with the exponentially higher testing from 7 months ago.
stoveliker
Minister of Fire
Have been at home since March. Lucky I can work from home, so the paycheck comes in normally. Got gas twice during this time...
Walk around the neighborhood, to the beach, and a masked trip to the grocery store every now and then.
While I am more introvert than extrovert, I'd be happy to go to the office again every now and then.
The wife works in nursing homes and a hospital. Was brutal in spring and early summer, gowns, face shields etc. Now cases are rising again in the hospital: 2 pts two weeks ago, 20+ now.
She's back to N95s, safety glasses (no shield or gown). Will be a tough winter I think.
Kids have been back to school since September, but given the near daily calls with notifications that 2-4 students are now quarantined, and the full driveways I noticed yesterday evening (Thanksgiving parties), I suspect that I will be working, schooling, and supporting an overloaded wife again very soon.
Glad the vaccines efforts seem to not be disappointing.
My view on masks is that you don't give up anything (no freedom lost) other than showing your handsome faces - a debatable thing normally and more so with my covid beard...
So it doesn't cost much, but it might save the life of someone's grandparent. Isn't that a good deal? Just like stopping for a traffic light. Not much lost, but you might end up NOT causing someone to die. Even if one believes masks are useless, there is always a finite chance it helps. And when the experts say it does, then yes they may be wrong, but odds are they are not. Same as getting tree felling advice here...
My two cents. I hope we'll all get through this. Be well.
Walk around the neighborhood, to the beach, and a masked trip to the grocery store every now and then.
While I am more introvert than extrovert, I'd be happy to go to the office again every now and then.
The wife works in nursing homes and a hospital. Was brutal in spring and early summer, gowns, face shields etc. Now cases are rising again in the hospital: 2 pts two weeks ago, 20+ now.
She's back to N95s, safety glasses (no shield or gown). Will be a tough winter I think.
Kids have been back to school since September, but given the near daily calls with notifications that 2-4 students are now quarantined, and the full driveways I noticed yesterday evening (Thanksgiving parties), I suspect that I will be working, schooling, and supporting an overloaded wife again very soon.
Glad the vaccines efforts seem to not be disappointing.
My view on masks is that you don't give up anything (no freedom lost) other than showing your handsome faces - a debatable thing normally and more so with my covid beard...
So it doesn't cost much, but it might save the life of someone's grandparent. Isn't that a good deal? Just like stopping for a traffic light. Not much lost, but you might end up NOT causing someone to die. Even if one believes masks are useless, there is always a finite chance it helps. And when the experts say it does, then yes they may be wrong, but odds are they are not. Same as getting tree felling advice here...
My two cents. I hope we'll all get through this. Be well.
SpaceBus
Minister of Fire
Agree to disagree, as I am getting my data from the Maine and US CDC. The contact tracing data shows that the teachers and staff are the ones bringing it to the schools. The children don't give it to themselves as they are all distanced and masked. To say a mask does nothing is 100% disinformation and has little basis in truth. Sure, the virus particles are small enough to pass through the mask, but they are often bound to water vapors which do not pass through the mask. As temperatures get colder the virus is more easily spread in part to the dry air, which facilitates transmission, and of course folks being inside, seeing other families and generally traveling between households.
It has been proven that the mask ads an additional layer of protection and it is foolish to not wear one. A seatbelt won't save you from being hit head on by an ambulance or large truck, but we all wear one.
Saying the masks don't help is doing this country and people you love a great disservice.
SpaceBus
Minister of Fire
Also, the previous 1918 pandemic ended shortly after masks were mandated when not in the home and folks were isolating. I don't think that is a coincidence.
Medic21
Minister of Fire
Very interesting read. I agree with a lot in this article. I agree that Covid is a disease that needs to be taken seriously also.
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A few days ago Johns Hopkins published a study saying corona is nbd. They then deleted it. Read it here in its entirety.
Johns Hopkins published this study on Sunday which posits that Covid is nowhere near the disaster we're being told it is. I would summarize it for you or offer pull-quotes but honestly you just have to read it yourself because it's mind-blowing. The original article is now deleted from the Johns...
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Medic21
Minister of Fire
Contact tracing here is showing the healthcare people that get it are not getting it at work. I did not say mask do nothing. I said that they will not protect you from someone not wearing a mask. There is a reason that 70% of those testing positive were wearing masks religiously and still got sick.
We know now that a N95 won’t protect you if you're doing a procedure or treatment that aerosolizes the virus.
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.
The prevention benefit of masking is derived from the combination of source control and personal protection for the mask wearer. The relationship between source control and personal protection is likely complementary and possibly synergistic14, so that individual benefit increases with increasing community mask use
SpaceBus
Minister of Fire
A mask alone certainly won't protect, it's more about the wearer and their choices. I have coworkers that wear masks in public, but they don't do anything else differently. They seem to think the mask makes them invulnerable. As mentioned with medical procedures even N95 won't save you, but this is a exposure time related thing. If you spend longer than five minutes in close proximity to a person, they better be from your household, because after that the risk is just screaming ever upwards and no mask or hazmat gear will be enough protection.
SidecarFlip
Minister of Fire
I wish i could give this 5 stars.Very interesting read. I agree with a lot in this article. I agree that Covid is a disease that needs to be taken seriously also.
A few days ago Johns Hopkins published a study saying corona is nbd. They then deleted it. Read it here in its entirety.
Johns Hopkins published this study on Sunday which posits that Covid is nowhere near the disaster we're being told it is. I would summarize it for you or offer pull-quotes but honestly you just have to read it yourself because it's mind-blowing. The original article is now deleted from the Johns...
Everyone should know about this study.
SidecarFlip
Minister of Fire
Personally speaking, I don't hold a lot of credence in studies or polls. I do hold credence in not contracting it and so far neither my wife nor I have (thought it's all around us) or the medial would have you believe that. If it's true or not remains to be seen.
To that end, we will continue to do what we have been doing, nothing changes with us.
Finally, Covid has become and is a vehicle for political trampling of personal rights and to that end, I'm pretty disgusted with not only the media, but politicians in general.
Simply put, in my view it's not what it is purported to be. Common flu kills as many as...Automobile accidents kill more just like drug and alcohol abuse.
To that end, we will continue to do what we have been doing, nothing changes with us.
Finally, Covid has become and is a vehicle for political trampling of personal rights and to that end, I'm pretty disgusted with not only the media, but politicians in general.
Simply put, in my view it's not what it is purported to be. Common flu kills as many as...Automobile accidents kill more just like drug and alcohol abuse.
The study was a brief slice in time, early on. It can be and was misinterpreted by some. This can be the selective and sometimes misleading nature of statistics. This disease has been with us for less than a year. Looking back, objectively, some true patterns will emerge. Trivializing this disease is fallacious and insensitive.
Here is the October CDC mortality report. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Mark Twain
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