Pacific Energy t5 burns too quickly

[Danaad]

My Pacific Energy t5 Alderlea wood stove is burning way to quick with air shut off. With a temperature gauge at 18 inches above the stove on my double walled pipe it gets to 600 degrees even with air shut off and sometimes higher. I had the door adjusted for a tighter fit and it is still burning very quickly.
Can anyone offer any suggestions! I am very wary of putting much wood in it at night. Thanks for help ahead of time. I"m new to being on this forum so any help would be so greatly appreciated! This photo is with the air shut completely off!

 

[Todd]

How tall is chimney? May need pipe damper.

 

[snobuilder]

Can you tell where your secondary burn air supply comes in and if is adjustable/dampered?

 

[snobuilder]

Looks like you have a "single lever air control" A pipe damper can help as posted by Todd

 

[claytonboyle]

when you say double wall pipe sees 600 is that internal temp with a probe thermo or outside temp of stove pipe

 

[Highbeam]

Sounds and looks perfectly normal if that 600 is measured using a proper probe meter.

 

[claytonboyle]

Sounds and looks perfectly normal if that 600 is measured using a proper probe meter.

My thoughts exactly. My super 27 will climb to 11-1200 pretty quickly on a full reload if I’m not watching it

 

[Danaad]

when you say double wall pipe sees 600 is that internal temp with a probe thermo or outside temp of stove pipe

no , its with a temp gage on the outside 18 inches up

 

[Danaad]

How tall is chimney? May need pipe damper.

I asked the people who installed the stove and they said better not to do that as its been set to burn correctly, I sure don't see how this is correct

 

[Danaad]

Sounds and looks perfectly normal if that 600 is measured using a proper probe meter.

maybe I should buy a probe meter, so that actually pierces the pipe through a tiny hole?

 

[Danaad]

no , its with a temp gage on the outside 18 inches up

is there any certian type of probe meter that you suggest? I will get off of Amazon. by the way , thank you everyone who has responded!

 

[Danaad]

Looks like you have a "single lever air control" A pipe damper can help as posted by Todd

I had two stove installers who suggested not to do that unfortunately

 

[Danaad]

How tall is chimney? May need pipe damper.

the pipe is a few feet higher than the main roof in back of photo

 

[stoveliker]

600 degrees measured on the outside of a double wall pipe is way too hot imo. (that is brightly glowing on the inside, if not at "pipe collapse temperatures...).

But you have double walled pipe; that seems impossible, 600 degrees on the outside...
Is your thermometer magnetic (a flat disc), or does it have a "stick" (probe) sticking into the pipe? I believe the latter is the case, in which case 600 degrees is perfectly fine.

Your chimney is not that tall, so I understand the installers not recommending a damper.

I'd look for air leaks in the stove.
Ash door (if any)? Window still solid in the door (cold stove, two flat hands, one inside and one outside, and see if you can move the window)?

@begreen has an Alderlea I believe.

 

[Todd]

Ok that chimney doesn’t look to tall. Have you tried turning your stove down sooner in stages til you get to low setting? An actual flue probe thermometer will help you know when to start turning it down. Non cats sometimes like to run away from you if you don’t time the shut down at the right time

 

[Danaad]

Ok that chimney doesn’t look to tall. Have you tried turning your stove down sooner in stages til you get to low setting? An actual flue probe thermometer will help you know when to start turning it down. Non cats sometimes like to run away from you if you don’t time the shut down at the right time

thanks for answer, yes they sure can run away from you! just had some look at it that installs and he said door and window were fine but that is a good idea to try to move the window when its cool. What type of probe would you suggest , I did not see one on Amazon

 

[stoveliker]

These will ship to you:

Condar stovepipe probe thermometers

stovepipe probe thermometers

www.condar.com

Amazon product ASIN B001D1J7YA

 

[stoveliker]

but are you seriously seeing 600 on a double wall pipe with a magnetic thermometer?

can you post a pic of your pipe thermometer?

 

[Danaad]

600 degrees measured on the outside of a double wall pipe is way too hot imo. (that is brightly glowing on the inside, if not at "pipe collapse temperatures...).

But you have double walled pipe; that seems impossible, 600 degrees on the outside...
Is your thermometer magnetic (a flat disc), or does it have a "stick" (probe) sticking into the pipe? I believe the latter is the case, in which case 600 degrees is perfectly fine.

Your chimney is not that tall, so I understand the installers not recommending a damper.

I'd look for air leaks in the stove.
Ash door (if any)? Window still solid in the door (cold stove, two flat hands, one inside and one outside, and see if you can move the window)?

@begreen has an Alderlea I believe.

wow that is very concerning to me, I need to get at were the damper is on the stove and see if its closing all the way, here are pics of my gage, I did order another one

 

[Danaad]

These will ship to you:

Condar stovepipe probe thermometers

stovepipe probe thermometers

www.condar.com

Amazon product ASIN B001D1J7YA

thank you so very much

 

[stoveliker]

well, that indeed is not a probe.
Are you sure your pipe is double walled? If you have not taken it off for a look, you can measure the circumference.

 

[Todd]

Those Rutland thermometers are junk, probably reads 100+ high.

 

[snobuilder]

I had two stove installers who suggested not to do that unfortunately

Not sure why. If you don't need it, you simply leave it open. But you have it if you want to try using it when you have an overfire. I want as much control of MY stove as I can get. but I understand that you hired THEM and you are at their mercy so to speak.

 

[snobuilder]

Those Rutland thermometers are junk, probably reads 100+ high.

Not mine, very close to my IR reading every time

 

[bholler]

no , its with a temp gage on the outside 18 inches up

That is way way hot in that case.