New Blaze King products?
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shoot-straight
Minister of Fire
I do not like the look of any of the stoves you guys are talking about IS, AS or this new bk box. All wpuld not pass the look test for my family room.
I would never settle to pay less for something I have to look at every day, operational or not.
I would never settle to pay less for something I have to look at every day, operational or not.
I dont mind the look of the new stove at all. It is not great looking no but it is not bad either from what I can see. I am not a big fan of the IS but it looks a lot better than the princess or king.Well aren't you fancy!
Highbeam
Minister of Fire
Really? Buzz? Woodstock has mostly gone away from this forum except for woody. The AS is the tiny one right? IS is like 3.2 CF and inside parts melt? short cat life?
Ha! kick the hornets nest.
We have had a whole lot of threads about problems with bks this year to just to kick another nest lol.
Highbeam
Minister of Fire
Yes we have. Although I can't say the "problems" were always BK problems. The Woodstock guys went somewhere else where they have been having problems with their stoves too. I think I would wait a while before buying one of their steel hybrids.
The number of BK units out there far outweigh the Woodstocks. I'd be curious to know the numbers, I'd bet 30-40 to 1. It's not surprising that some end up on hearth looking for help.
I was unaware of the failures. Except for the premature cat failures that Woodstocks in general experience. (Which somehow rarely get mentioned online)
Sounds just like my Cape Cod!
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Highbeam
Minister of Fire
That AS is shamefully ugly, small, and inefficient at just 77%. Woodstock can do better. What that stove does well is low emissions, just 0.5 gph!
I know most of the problems were not the stoves fault necessarily. I just had to be a pita a little. We have 2 customers who are really happy with their woodstock hybrids and have had no real issues.
Highbeam
Minister of Fire
I was unaware of the failures. Except for the premature cat failures that Woodstocks in general experience. (Which somehow rarely get mentioned online)
Sounds just like my Cape Cod!
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The cat failures mentioned online at that other woodstove forum sound very similar to my experience. Real, full time, 24/7, burners are getting two years. The cat prices have gone way up on them too which used to be a strong point for the Woodstocks. At the same time the BK cats have gotten cheaper, so we're about even on life and cost. The IS is melting some internal parts that while embarrassing, the parts are easily replaced without welding or serious disassembly. I'd still like to try one someday.
Me too. I like the tall AS, I wish more stoves offered tall legs. I don't find it to be too ugly. It's different, but I like it ok.
I disagree. Maybe ugly to some. But not shamefully ugly.. that title belongs to US stove and Breckwell.
Poindexter
Minister of Fire
Just an idea, what if a designer took the combustors out of a pair of ashford 30s and mounted them side by side in a king sized box?
I studied enough marine sedimentology to know using a fluid to move particles around gets into partial diffy q real fast...
I am a little concerned about my visible stack plume at full throttle in colder weather. Down to -20dF or so at half throttle the smoke police will be rolling by my house blissfully unaware. Ripping wide open throttle at -35dF and colder they'd probably pull over to evaluate a while and thats never a good thing.
The thing is in that kind of weather we dont really have enough sunlight for a level 9 VEE to make a valid reading, but VEE #9 is the law.
If i could get 35k btu/hr with plume opacity at 0-5% and a sticker that said 2.5 gph or less i would buy it today, has to be pretty enough for the wife to live with.
I studied enough marine sedimentology to know using a fluid to move particles around gets into partial diffy q real fast...
I am a little concerned about my visible stack plume at full throttle in colder weather. Down to -20dF or so at half throttle the smoke police will be rolling by my house blissfully unaware. Ripping wide open throttle at -35dF and colder they'd probably pull over to evaluate a while and thats never a good thing.
The thing is in that kind of weather we dont really have enough sunlight for a level 9 VEE to make a valid reading, but VEE #9 is the law.
If i could get 35k btu/hr with plume opacity at 0-5% and a sticker that said 2.5 gph or less i would buy it today, has to be pretty enough for the wife to live with.
jetsam
Minister of Fire
The US Stove company does not win any awards for looks, but I heated my home with a Wonderwood for 7 years as the only source of heat. I don't care how little glass you have or how brown the color is; when it is 9 degrees outside and the stove is keeping the house at 72 it looks mighty fine to me.I disagree. Maybe ugly to some. But not shamefully ugly.. that title belongs to US stove and Breckwell.
huauqui
Burning Hunk
I too like the big glass on this new stove. At that price point it really should help the BK dealers fill a niche.
mellow
Resident Stove Connoisseur
They don't win any awards for looks or performance.
I'm glad it heated your place. Heck a campfire makes heat.. any metal box will make heat if you put a fire inside it. Not efficiently though and often times not safely.
I had a guy tell me once why it's called Wonderwood. He said you fill it up with wood, then you wonder where your wood went! We swapped it out with a Blaze King, he's happy now!
Did you have a place for a freestander? I assumed you have an insert out of necessity. They can produce this unit cheaper because all the testing was done with the insert, it shares the same firebox. Bringing it to market is much cheaper because of that. Typically manufacturers do not pass that savings on to the customer though, BK saw a need and are trying to fill that need as cheap as possible.
