Is this setup correct?

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Hatric

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Moved into a home with this setup already in place.
Buck Model 74
Prefab fireplace - Preway
6” Diameter Homesaver Pro/ Ultra Pro Liner - (According to the Chimney cleaner who cleaned and inspected it)

After having it cleaned and inspected he left the following note on the bill:

-You have a Buck Model 74 Insert & a 6” Diameter Homesaver Pro/ Ultra Pro Liner installed in a Preway factory built fireplace and chimney.

-Preway does not allow any woodstove & liner to be installed in their fireplace and chimney

-Buck does not allow this insert to be installed in this manner. (Missing zero clearance cabinet & class A chimney)

-Homesaver does not allow this installation either. (Missing insulation blanket, S.S. mesh, S.S. clamps on insulated liner, adaptor, storm collar, top clamp & chimney cover all at the top of the chimney & elbow at the bottom of the chimney fastener to the liner & insert.

From my research I've found in the Buck 74 manual this model was tested with a Preway fireplace which leads me to question his comments. Can anyone help verify how accurate his information is? I appreciate any advice given.
 
Hatric said:
Moved into a home with this setup already in place.
Buck Model 74
Prefab fireplace - Preway
6” Diameter Homesaver Pro/ Ultra Pro Liner - (According to the Chimney cleaner who cleaned and inspected it)

After having it cleaned and inspected he left the following note on the bill:

-You have a Buck Model 74 Insert & a 6” Diameter Homesaver Pro/ Ultra Pro Liner installed in a Preway factory built fireplace and chimney.

-Preway does not allow any woodstove & liner to be installed in their fireplace and chimney

-Buck does not allow this insert to be installed in this manner. (Missing zero clearance cabinet & class A chimney)

-Homesaver does not allow this installation either. (Missing insulation blanket, S.S. mesh, S.S. clamps on insulated liner, adaptor, storm collar, top clamp & chimney cover all at the top of the chimney & elbow at the bottom of the chimney fastener to the liner & insert.

From my research I've found in the Buck 74 manual this model was tested with a Preway fireplace which leads me to question his comments. Can anyone help verify how accurate his information is? I appreciate any advice given.
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He is not entirely correct about buck not allowing it though. They do allow thier inserts to be installed in preways as long as they are ul listed. The problem is that to meet the listing that fireplace needs to be installed according to preway's instructions. So unless preway allows buck inserts to be installed in them he is right.

What model preway is your fireplace? That is the only way i can give you a definitive answer.
 
bholler said:
He is not entirely correct about buck not allowing it though. They do allow thier inserts to be installed in preways as long as they are ul listed. The problem is that to meet the listing that fireplace needs to be installed according to preway's instructions. So unless preway allows buck inserts to be installed in them he is right.

What model preway is your fireplace? That is the only way i can give you a definitive answer.
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The Preway fireplace is a zero clearance B142B
 
bholler said:
https://manualzz.com/doc/13939096/preway-b1128b-b136b-b142b

On the first page it clearly says do not modify or alter the fireplace in any way. Doing so voids any warranty or approvals of the unit. The damper had to be removed to install the liner because of that the fireplace is no longer listed and does not meet the requirements of the buck insert.
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So in regards to safety, is this a major hazard or do people commonly go this route despite it not being recommended?
 
Hatric said:
So in regards to safety, is this a major hazard or do people commonly go this route despite it not being recommended?
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It may be safe it may not be. We just dont know because it hasnt been tested. We have no idea if your fireplace was installed correctly (many were not) or what condition it is in. Those fireplaces were only designed to last 20 years or so. The fact is you are doing something with a listed fireplace system that it was never designed to do or tested for.

And yes people do it even though it is not code compliant. If there ever was an issue you could have big problems making a claim.
 
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