Do rounds season

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therdlesstravld said:
Here’s some data:

Your rounds lost 10% moisture content in a year and a half in round form.

Here’s an analysis using your data:

The rounds seasoned in a year and a half, just not to the point that you would burn them.

Here’s a conjecture:

If you left your rounds for 15 years (ten times as long as you did) they would season to the point that you could split and burn them. This is backed up by trguitar’s experience that 15 year old ash was useable directly after being split.


We all know what your trying to say but your being a real Richard about it so that’s why everyone is splitting hairs...
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The name calling means verry little.. dosent bother me one bit.. again the funny part is that you have no real information to bring of your owne. You havent done anything.. all you did was take what i posted and reused it.. try doing it your self.. try recording what the moisture loss was per year.. thats the data im looking for.. come on man your saying your so much better and have so much more experience, and again you have come to dinner empty handed . The fact is you have no idea exactly what the moisture loss would be. People aren't seasoning rounds in a barn for 15 years. All you have is an opinion that's it.. you havent done anything on your owne.. the rounds lost some moisture yes.. but I doubt they would actually fully season in that form
Someone asked a question I pretty much answered it... do rounds season the answer is pretty much no ... they're going to need to be split.. nobody's waiting 15 years.. sorry you cant live with it.. if you could come up with an original thought.. that would be great..
 
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So while splitting some rounds from the same lit of wood, i took some MC readings.. the rounds were smaller like the 12 to 14 inch stuff.. the MC when split was 37%.. pic attached. Its still 37% after 18 months thats pretty wet
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Interesting reading. I am currently splitting large black cherry rounds from two living trees that went down last August. I cut and stacked the rounds in the woods over the fall and winter. I just now began splitting and stacking. I was very surprised to find that even the 16-20" rounds are now at 17-18% moisture content measured with a moisture meter.
 
warrenoliver said:
Interesting reading. I am currently splitting large black cherry rounds from two living trees that went down last August. I cut and stacked the rounds in the woods over the fall and winter. I just now began splitting and stacking. I was very surprised to find that even the 16-20" rounds are now at 17-18% moisture content measured with a moisture meter.
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I find this interesting also which is why I put up this thread. There are a number of species of wood that you could leave in rounds and have it season I'm pretty sure that cherry loses its moisture readily along with some other Woods like tulip poplar, which you could leave in a 18 inch length and have it pretty much fully seasoned within a year or so. But somebody else asked the question regarding Oak normally I do not leave Oak and rounds and I never try to season Oak in rounds but I did store some rounds back in 17 which is why I'm posting what the moisture loss was over the course of 18 months. I'm finding that the most it dropped would be 10% most. Woods will lose a lot of moisture in the very beginning of the seasoning process and as the moisture continues to evaporate or lost from the round or split it slows it takes longer for the split or round to lose its last 5% of moisture versus its first 5% of moisture. The person that originally asked the question I feel is a really good question can you actually seasoned Oak in rounds. From what im seeing.. not really. .. unless you give that person the advice of, they need to wait at least a decade
 
Woodsplitter67 said:
I find this interesting also which is why I put up this thread. There are a number of species of wood that you could leave in rounds and have it season I'm pretty sure that cherry loses its moisture readily along with some other Woods like tulip poplar, which you could leave in a 18 inch length and have it pretty much fully seasoned within a year or so. But somebody else asked the question regarding Oak normally I do not leave Oak and rounds and I never try to season Oak in rounds but I did store some rounds back in 17 which is why I'm posting what the moisture loss was over the course of 18 months. I'm finding that the most it dropped would be 10% most. Woods will lose a lot of moisture in the very beginning of the seasoning process and as the moisture continues to evaporate or lost from the round or split it slows it takes longer for the split or round to lose its last 5% of moisture versus its first 5% of moisture. The person that originally asked the question I feel is a really good question can you actually seasoned Oak in rounds. From what im seeing.. not really. .. unless you give that person the advice of, they need to wait at least a decade
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Ash and Silver and Red Maple also tend to dry quickly in round form along with the Cherry and Poplar you mentioned.
 
PA. Woodsman said:
Ash and Silver and Red Maple also tend to dry quickly in round form along with the Cherry and Poplar you mentioned.
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I dont burn ash and maple, so I have little experience with them.. Im primarily Oak and Cherry. Its really surprising to me how slow oak is in rounds.. never put much thought into in until the post was made
 
Woodsplitter67 said:
I dont burn ash and maple, so I have little experience with them.. Im primarily Oak and Cherry. Its really surprising to me how slow oak is in rounds.. never put much thought into in until the post was made
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I have some Oak that I cut about 3 or 4 years ago and just hung onto it knowing that it will stay okay until I need it but I noticed it got a lot of the white fungus on some pieces of it thanks to the rain we've had for the last 10 months. It's funny how certain species get that white fungus while others don't.

Years ago when I was younger and not understanding wood like I do now I remember I had some Oak and burned it and it wasn't this great superwood that I had heard of, but it was my own fault as I didn't let it season long enough. I remember having some more in the garage and thought "I'll give it another Summer in the garage to dry" and I found out what a difference it made and then the light went on in my empty head that Oak takes longer to dry out!
 
So I think I understand what you are trying to say after reading all the posts. If I don't please let me know.
Your "bottom line" is that seasoning doesn't start until they are split, but you also stated the 10% drop in moisture so I am confused.

Also sounds like you guessed at 43% moisture when they were first brought to you? Or is that just an average?

Last point to make... Do you have a split piece to compare it to? Like if you split a piece back in 2018 or whatever what would the mc be? Yes obviously lower but oak is slow seasoning anyways so it would be interesting to see a base line comparison on rounds vs splits .

My bottom line is I disagree with your original post, but I'm trying to start any thing with you .
 
Woodsplitter67 said:
I dont burn ash and maple, so I have little experience with them.. Im primarily Oak and Cherry. Its really surprising to me how slow oak is in rounds.. never put much thought into in until the post was made
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I burn mostly Ash, Cherry and Elm, it's because it is what I have available. Cherry rounds split in the spring will be ready to burn in the winter. I think the consensus here is that Oak needs 2-3 years cut split and stacked under a top cover to be ready to burn. I've seasoned Oak rounds for 2 years, then split and stacked them, when I used my first batch it sucked, still way too wet. Split that wood and get it stacked so the wind and warmer weather can season it.
 
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