Pine Wood

davo said:

Quick question. Would you consider 100$ for split, "seasoned", delivered, and a full 4x4x8 cord of pine wood a good deal? Just pricing out options. Thanks!

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Over here in South Jersey that would go for $120-$130, so $100 is not bad. However, most Pine I get is for free as most people don't want to touch it.

Sure. I burned nothing but Pine in my Blaze King King for 7 years until I went Pellet. Would get 9pm to 5am burn times even on Medium and Very Cold Nights. Of course in WA State we have no Oak or such for Firewood

Its great campfire wood. It has a nice snap crackle and pop that folks expect.. Not so good with an open fireplace as that snap crackle and pop will lead to burn holes in the flooring or carpet. It makes for fast start and burn which is nice in shoulder season. Obviously its low on the BTUs on a volume basis but great for getting a fire started. Sap can be an issue for handling it.

At that price, cut split and delivered they don't place much value on their time. Note that white pine has thick bark and if it sits for any length of time after its been cut with the bark on, the borers move in and start chewing. The net result is the outer 1 to 3" of bark and wood can end up not having a lot of btu content. It the bark gets stripped early, it will last a long time if its up off the ground. Definitely you want splits from rounds rather than slabs as the ratio of good wood to bad is much high than slabs.

Seems a fair price to me. Although pine is often free someone has put the work in to cut, split, load and deliver it.

Nice for starting the fire. Just mix it in with your hardwoods.

Sounds fair enough to me too. Where I am, the only "Free" wood is inevitably pine, but pine is fine in my book.

$100/cord is a common price for it around here now. At one time you pretty much couldn't sell it for any price and no one bothered.
I use more and more of it every year as shoulder wood, quick hot fire in the morning , hot burning fuel on top of a deep bed of coals and split small as an accelerant on a thin coal bed to get another load of wood going quick.

Seems reasonable.

Around here all pine should be no more than $75 delivered and stacked. But actually you see virtually no pine for sale as most post have mentioned nobody wants it so they don't even try to sell it around here. It's usually a free score here. Most of what's here is White or Virginia. White is soft and Virginia is a scrub pine that is dense but with a lot of resin in it, similar to southern yellow pine. Southern/Eastern Maryland it's Loblolly.

davo said:

Quick question. Would you consider 100$ for split, "seasoned", delivered, and a full 4x4x8 cord of pine wood a good deal? Just pricing out options. Thanks!

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Where are you located in CT, and what is the name of the supplier? I want in on this deal!!

You are in Connecticut and have access to good wood, like oak.
What do you want pine for? I use it for kindling. It is great for that. I wouldn't waste space in my woodshed with pine.

Pine is for Lumber not for burning
If you can't make lumber with it leave it in the bush
Just my 2 cents

johneh you are a man after my own heart.


Here is what I do with white pine. I build houses with it. The logs, the huge 4x10 rafters 22 feet long, and the board and batten on the gable end, all white pine.

I would take that deal if I didn't have so much pine laying around. I have no problem burning it at all

Simonkenton said:

You are in Connecticut and have access to good wood, like oak.
What do you want pine for? I use it for kindling. It is great for that. I wouldn't waste space in my woodshed with pine.

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I have access to unlimited free oak/maple, etc. Trouble is twofold:

1. I am finding that hardwoods truly take 3 yrs to season (split small, off the ground, covered well for 2 yrs). This is because my property gets basically no sun. I burn 4 cords a year, so having some wood that seasons in one year is very helpful.

2. My life is crazy busy now, so I don't have the time to split a full 4 cords myself.

$100 for a cord of truly seasoned wood is a really good deal by me, regardless of species. I don't see how they are making much money.

I have so many trees to cut and process (dead, dying, in the way) that I considered selling it, but it's all spruce and Balsam fir. I wouldn't be able to get more than $150/cord for seasoned wood delivered and stacked. That's not worth it for my effort. I'm going to turn the living trees into lumber after I'm several years ahead on my firewood.

There is no money in cutting, splitting, stacking, and delivering firewood for $100. a cord. If you have processed a cord of firewood before no explanation is required.

jsab9191 said:

There is no money in cutting, splitting, stacking, and delivering firewood for $100. a cord. If you have processed a cord of firewood before no explanation is required.

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Is that a Kioti DK in your avatar?

Add it all up - saw, fuel, oil, truck milage, hourly labor, splitter - I figured I would need 200-250 per cord to feel like breaking even, if the wood was free, regardless of BTU. Of course, the saw is paid for, milage - mey, splitter by hand, labor - free. I get to play lumberjack, yet quit when I'm tired. I get to shop for tools, how awsome is that. I'm trading my equipment and labor to keep the wife and pets warm. $100/cord sale price means they don't value their means, have a marketing problem, or are super efficient and have an in somewhere that the rest of aren't aware of.

SpaceBus said:

Is that a Kioti DK in your avatar?

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No SpaceBus, It is a 2015 Kioti NX4510 . I bought it new in June 2015 and currently has 910 hours on it. Been a great tractor and still runs like the day I bought it.

jsab9191 said:

No SpaceBus, It is a 2015 Kioti NX4510 . I bought it new in June 2015 and currently has 910 hours on it. Been a great tractor and still runs like the day I bought it.

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I just snagged a Kioti DK4710SE a about a month ago. I've only got 32 hrs on it so far! It's good to see other kioti owners with many hours and lots of work done. Where did you get yours? My local dealer has only been doing this a year or two.

It's been a great tractor and I have no regrets. My brother just bought a Nx4510 last year at the same dealer in Skowhegan, they do a great job so it was easy to refer him to them. They have been a dealer for over ten years.

jsab9191 said:

It's been a great tractor and I have no regrets. My brother just bought a Nx4510 last year at the same dealer in Skowhegan, they do a great job so it was easy to refer him to them. They have been a dealer for over ten years.

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My dealer has been pretty great so far, but they are definitely inexperienced at this business.