HELP ME PLEASE!!!! Installation of SHP22L pellet stove

[ETPHONE]

Hi I am a average do it yourselfer

This Saturday I am having my first pellet stove delivered to my house and I have a couple of questions on my particular installation. I plan on installing it in my basement. I would like to install it in one of the corners of the basement but I do not know if it will be a problem. Within this corner I have a gas line approx. 2.5 to 3 feet from where the flue would be.

1)Is this a problem for a Massachusetts resident being so close to the gas line. If so is there a way that I can make it safe so that I can install it there?

2)Also, I would like to run the 3" simpson dura vent flue pipe through the ceiling and install a 90 degree bend and exit the house over the sill plate of my house so that I do not have to core through my foundation is there any issues with that? Should I remove the insulation from the bay between the floor joist that would house the flue pipe?

3)I have also read that the termination end of the flue can not be 3 feet in the horizontal direction from the gas meter and it can not be above the meter as well, is there a certain height limitation as to the vertical distance of the exhaust from the gas meter.

I would love to install it at this location because it would be perfectly positioned where it would heat the basement and some heat could travel up the stairs to warm parts of the first floor. Any opinion and expert advice is much welcomed and appreciated. I have attached a picture of the corner which I want to install the pellet stove. I hope it came through.

Thank you.

 

[Shane]

1.) I'm not really sure about the gas line. Elkimeg would be more familiar with specific codes for Mass. Personally as an installer I would treat the line like a meter, just to be a little safer.

2.) Make sure you have the proper depth of floor joist to maintain clearance to combustibles. Definately remove the insulation from the section where the pipe will run through. Again to be that much safer you could construct a sheetmetal enclosure inside the joist area.

3.) Is there any way you can vent vertically up the side of the house and terminate above your roofline? That might be a better way to go so that you can avoid the gas lines/meter all together. On top of that you won't risk staining the side of your house with the horizontal termiation.

 

[stoveguy2esw]

hey guys,
i talked to this gent earlier today when he called my office. i asked him to post here so i could get a little help, the gas line and meter which is outside fairly close to where he is looking to install had me a bit worried and i wanted other opinions on the hookup, (particularly with elk as he is local (mass) and would know the code issues better than i do) going all the way up outside may not be an option due to the height , he has 2 floors above this basement and would be close to max height allowed to get above roofline.

i talked ya up pretty proud to this fellow Elk, i know you can get him moving in the right direction

 

[elkimmeg]

ok I read the post and viewed the pictures. Insulation should have the vapor barier facing the heated side or if unfaced plastic installed wher uf faced is does not have the vapor barrie picture 2 shows that covered up did the inspector pass the vapor barrier issue?

I assume there are other combustion appliances in that basement what provisions have you taken to make up the combustion air requirements they require once the partitioned areas are eliminated from that vollume. I know Englander requires out side air feeds to pellet stoves, but did not read any mention of such

To answer you first question clearance to the gass line given the distances you presented is a non issue? I have to review the gass codes as to the location to the meter.
I will post after I do so.

BTW you should be asking your local inspector these questions its his signature you need.

I may not post on the meter question tonight, because i have to research the code. I can ask my gass inspector tommorrow morning and post his answer that's the best I can do

 

[ETPHONE]

I appreciate your help stoveguy and elk and look forward to hearing from you soon. This site is grrrrrrrrrrrrreat!! Thanks stoveguy.

To answer your comment elk I do not have any other combustables in the basement because my heating system is located in the attic leaving me with a 30' X 30' blank canvas for my imagination to run wild with. Also if you look at my pictures posted, I have installed some in wall speakers on the wall with a plasma which will be installed later between them. Do you guys think that the stoves postion will be an issue?

I spoke with some dealers in regards to the outside air and they told me not to waste my time with installing it. Is there any truth to this? I would hate to have to run two 3" pipes up and out of my basement. I like the look of having just one exhaust pipe running out.

Is there a a way for me to test the unit and see if there is enough air in the room to operate the unit? I understand that some home are now very energy efficient which is why the outside air is needed. Could I get away with cracking the window open a little bit to introduce some air into the area? I know that I would be losing some heat but the unit is able to cover 2200 SF and I only have 900 SF of open space in the basement so a little lost of heat would not hurt me to bad I don't believe.

 

[HarryBack]

the gas thing....generally accepted, you should be more than 3 feet from it.

As for extending the pipe to the roofline...good idea, except, Id reccommend using 4" pipe.....the distance there with all the elbows you will have to use will exceed the reccommended max length for 3" pipe.

As for going out the rim joist, thats fine, but make sure you use an exhaust thinble, and make sure you take the insulation out from around the pipe in between the joists where the pipe will go.

As for intake air, see how the fire is burning after about 5-6 hours of use, without any door or window in the home being opened. Then crack a cellar window while someone else watches the fire. If there is a difference, use outside air.

Take a draft reading.

Take a draft reading.

Take a draft reading.

 

[elkimmeg]

There is no code governing a pellet vent in relationship to the gas meter meaning the pipe can be 6" away but vent outlet requires 3' separation distance

 

[Bob512]

Check your township codes! As for the gas line, a lot of them are flexable now and you could have a plumber move it some or lengthen it and move it also.