My OAK decision

[dhungy]

OK.. I read the OAK wikki... My house is very old and very drafty. The OAK was not installed by the installer on my Avalon. The englander will be installed on the other side of the house in a newer yet not air tight addition. It will not have an OAK either.. Any thoughts?

 

[begreen]

Sounds like Deliverance for pellet stoves. Fix the draftiness first. No point in heating the great outdoors.

 

[dhungy]

well its not that bad... its just an older house not a air tight new house

 

[imacman]

You know you have a leaky house, and somewhat leaky addition, and will now pull even more cold air in through the cracks with the 2 stoves going w/o OAK's on them, effectively cooling off the air you just finished heating.......from the title of this thread, sounds like you don't want an OAK on either stove, so what's the real question?

 

[Meneillys]

sounds like you already decided that you don't want an OAK on either stove, so what's the real question?

That is when I tell my girlfriend that I am talking to myself. Asking questions out loud to myself that I don't want an answer to because I already know the answer even though its wrong.

 

[imacman]

Asking questions out loud to myself that I don't want an answer to because I already know the answer even though its wrong.

:lol:

 

[MCPO]

The usual order of priority should be to seal the drafts first.

 

[dhungy]

I don't mind putting in a OAK on at least one of the stoves... I guess I just read the wikki wrong.

 

[slls]

I could never understand all these discussions about OAK, it's easier and cheaper to install than a vent. Must be because it will run without it.

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

I could never understand all these discussions about OAK, it's easier and cheaper to install than a vent. Must be because it will run without it.

Sometimes it will, sometimes it won't, makes one feel like an Almond Bar or not ;-) .

I'd be very busy sealing that house up and at least installing two OAKS. The OAK on that Englander as they really want you to, ask Mike he'll set you straight on that matter and on the Avalon simply because I hate sending heated room air up and out the vent.

But that is just me.

 

[vvvv]

i recently guesstimated my Englander 25 PDVC was blowing ~10cfm on low & cold/no burn

 

[MSmith66]

OK.. I read the OAK wikki... My house is very old and very drafty. The OAK was not installed by the installer on my Avalon. The englander will be installed on the other side of the house in a newer yet not air tight addition. It will not have an OAK either.. Any thoughts?

'mI not too sure but, I think all Englander's require OAK. Look at manual.

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

OK.. I read the OAK wikki... My house is very old and very drafty. The OAK was not installed by the installer on my Avalon. The englander will be installed on the other side of the house in a newer yet not air tight addition. It will not have an OAK either.. Any thoughts?

'mI not too sure but, I think all Englander's require OAK. Look at manual.

I'm not certain about the older models, which is why I suggested the chat with Mike.

The manual for the stove should say.

 

[imacman]

OK.. I read the OAK wikki... My house is very old and very drafty. The OAK was not installed by the installer on my Avalon. The englander will be installed on the other side of the house in a newer yet not air tight addition. It will not have an OAK either.. Any thoughts?

'mI not too sure but, I think all Englander's require OAK. Look at manual.

I'm not certain about the older models, which is why I suggested the chat with Mike.

The manual for the stove should say.

Good question...I can't say for certain, but my guess is that Englander (Mike) will recommend an OAK on the older stoves too. All new ones , at least since '04 came with an OAK in the hopper and the manual states it MUST be used.

UPDATE: I have just looked at the pre-2004 Englander owners manuals for the PDVC and PDV, and they state: "An outside combustion air connection is mandatory for this unit to work properly".

 

[WoodPorn]

Does not sound to me like there is really much of a question, There really is no downside to an OAK.

 

[imacman]

Does not sound to me like there is really much of a question, There really is no downside to an OAK.

Yes, that is fairly obvious, but you'd be surprised at how many people on here will give you an argument against them.

 

[hossthehermit]

Does not sound to me like there is really much of a question, There really is no downside to an OAK.

Depending on your situation, there certainly can be.

 

[WoodPorn]

Does not sound to me like there is really much of a question, There really is no downside to an OAK.

Depending on your situation, there certainly can be.

What's that?

 

[hossthehermit]

My situation would require 14' horizontal, 90 ° down, 7' vertical, 90 ° over , 6" horizontal. Frost, condensation, dripping water, tripping hazard.

 

[Don2222]

Hello

Imacman is right about pulling in cold air from the cracks. Without the oaks the performance and efficiency goes down and is more like a fireplace!!

I have Avalon Astoria and I had to run a 15 foot aluminum flex pipe for my OAK but it is well worth it! You will notice that you get much more heat in your living space with the OAKs.

With my oak, this one stove heats the entire house on 3 tons of pellets for the winter!

 

[richkorn]

I have no OAK on my Leyden and heated my entire house last winter on 3 tons of pellets.

 

[dhungy]

My avalon heated my entire house with 3 tons of pellets with no OAK

 

[WoodPorn]

My situation would require 14' horizontal, 90 ° down, 7' vertical, 90 ° over , 6" horizontal. Frost, condensation, dripping water, tripping hazard.

Well...No argument there!

 

[MCPO]

My situation would require 14' horizontal, 90 ° down, 7' vertical, 90 ° over , 6" horizontal. Frost, condensation, dripping water, tripping hazard.

Well...No argument there!

I had a unique installation that required me to run close to 25 ft of 4" alum vent (10 ft of flex snaked across a finished ceiling the rest under open rafters) to get fresh air to my stove.

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

My situation would require 14' horizontal, 90 ° down, 7' vertical, 90 ° over , 6" horizontal. Frost, condensation, dripping water, tripping hazard.

What does exhaust vent run look like?