Old Englander stove

[Sam72]

I picked up this old stove to heat my shop and it doesn’t have a data tag so just wondering if anyone is familiar with this model. There is a round hole on one side and I assume a blower is supposed to go there. Anyone know off hand of a replacement fan that might fit?

 

[Burnin Since 1991]

Take another look for the tag. Maybe it got painted over

From the Englander website:

Wood Stoves - the tag is located on the side, usually bottom left, or the rear of the unit.

@begreen any thoughts on what model this could be?

 

[begreen]

I've seen an Englander like this, but not as a side loader, the doors were on the front. They made many models and variants back in the 1970s. Unfortunately, a lot of knowledge of these old Englanders is lost with the death of the owners years ago and subsequent sale of the company to SBI.

 

[Sam72]

I found pictures of a similar model, must be newer because this one has a patent number and mine says patent pending. Anyone it has a blower at the bottom with a metal duct to the top, probably similar hole as mine just opposite corner

 

[Sam72]

It appears to be a model 28-c although I can’t find anything else about. Here is another photo of one. Now I need to find some firebrick for it

 

[Burnin Since 1991]

It appears to be a model 28-c although I can’t find anything else about. Here is another photo of one. Now I need to find some firebrick for it

The pic on the last post has different air control and has a patent number. Unless yours is a very early edition.

 

[Burnin Since 1991]

It appears to be a model 28-c although I can’t find anything else about. Here is another photo of one. Now I need to find some firebrick for it

The firebricks basically only come in a few sizes and are basically generic. Do you have any in that stove now?

 

[Sam72]

The firebricks basically only come in a few sizes and are basically generic. Do you have any in that stove now?

Yeah there are a few but most are broken. I will use them to get a base measurement. But there is no retaining system for a 2nd row on the sides

 

[Burnin Since 1991]

Yeah there are a few but most are broken. I will use them to get a base measurement. But there is no retaining system for a 2nd row on the sides

does it have bricks on the sides and back now or does it look like there ever was?

 

[Sam72]

No there wasn’t enough to even cover the bottom. Previous owner just used sand in between the cracked and missing bricks

 

[Burnin Since 1991]

ok since we don't have a manual, how about a pic of the inside of the stove

 

[Sam72]

Here you go

 

[Burnin Since 1991]

Here you go

Those look like regular bricks to me? Some are thicker than others. Can you measure the firebox length x width as I don't think putting new ones in like that is going to work out. Generally fire bricks are 9 inches long and 4 1/2 inches wide and only the thickness varies. There are exceptions to that but basically that's pretty standard. Do any of the steel sides, top, back look warped or wavy at all? Also inside the firebox the sides and back look awfully black. Is that creosote? Or something else?

Those other stoves you posted pictures of. Are they contactable? If you can reach out to someone who has the same stove it might be a good idea to see what they have for fire bricks etc.

 

[Sam72]

No those other pictures are just random internet pics. There are no signs of warpage but with all that creosote they obviously didn’t have a very hot fire. Or at least not recently. Will be tomorrow before I can get the measurements.

Hopefully there will be room for a row of vertical bricks held up by the flat horizontal ones. But still no way to hold a 2nd vertical row up the sides unless I make something

 

[Burnin Since 1991]

No those other pictures are just random internet pics. There are no signs of warpage but with all that creosote they obviously didn’t have a very hot fire. Or at least not recently. Will be tomorrow before I can get the measurements.

Hopefully there will be room for a row of vertical bricks held up by the flat horizontal ones. But still no way to hold a 2nd vertical row up the sides unless I make something

If you line the bottom, and then do one vertical row all the way around it would be better than nothing. Maybe get all those bricks out of there and scrape out the stove some and get that creosote gunk off there. They made those stove to last forever. Hopefully you can find a blower down the road. Might have to fabricate an adapter to fit that. Most of the blowers have a flat flange on them to be bolted to whatever. If its close to the right size you could use an angle grinder or something to cut off the flange.

Maybe measure the inside diameter of that fan connection and I will see if any match up

 

[Sam72]

The inside firebox is 32x18, the bricks are 9x4x2.25 and the blower tube is 2” ID and 2.5” OD.

So if I get some 9x4.5x2.25 I should be able to make it work.