VaporFire 100 - Burns arent super long

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jonher

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Oct 3, 2024
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Wisconsin
Hi folks - I installed a VaporFire 100 last month and it's been getting cold enough here in northern WI that I've tried it out a few times. While I love the furnace and it's a million times better than my previous 1970s blast furnace Im not getting a very long burn time on a full load of wood. I've seen people saying they get 12 hours and on a totally full load Im closer to 6-7 before it gets cool enough that it shuts off and the computer is at 3.

I did a lot of reading before ordering and installing and I realized how important draft was so I installed a Dwyer Mark 2 manometer as part of the install. The line is attached to the stove pipe before the supplied barometric dampner/draft control, the low side (left) is open to the room and the high side (right) is connected to a copper line which is then attached to the rubber line and attached to the Dwyer. I've found so far that I can get the Dwyer to show about .07 (typically somewhere around .05 and .07 on average) while I have a good fire going and the computer is on "c". Without a strong fire Im closer to .05. To achieve this the barometric dampener has to be set at 8 though which I understand to be closed. So it feels like Im doing ok on the draft side but perhaps someone can confirm?

In terms of the fire itself I watched all the videos about reloading the starting the stove. I have no issue getting it going but I'll admit that my wood that I cut in spring is not the length suggested for this furnace. My pieces are smaller - 12-16 inches so once I get the fire going I place a piece close to the coals, then another one on top of that further back, and continue until I hit the back. Then I add more on top as I am able to. They make a big deal in the videos about it being a "front to back" burner but the few times I've checked the fire it sure seems to me like all of the wood is on fire all the way back. Im very careful when reloading to scrape all the coals forward so they are only in the front but not blocking the air vents but it seems regardless of what I do all the wood eventually starts up. Now to the moisture content though - the supplied moisture gauge is showing that it's ~13%. Is that too dry? The website says they are looking for 18-28%. I'll admit Im surprised it's that low but I believe that's only the surface moisture content. Maybe I should drive a couple nails in a piece and see what it's at inside? Or how do folks normally check for the the moisture? I cut the wood (from fallen trees) in the spring, let it sit and split it over the course of the summer which is what I've always done.

So my current theory is that my low burn times are likely associated with how Im loading the furnace or the wood itself. The burns I get are great and once I get to the little c on the computer I can check the chimey outside and I see no smoke (which is great!) so I believe it is burning efficiently. Perhaps Im not loading the furnace high enough past the smoke shield?

I expected there to be a bit of a learning curve here - just trying to figure out the most efficient way to use this furnace. Thanks folks!
 
Sounds like you could turn the draft down a bit...-0.06" is as high as you want to go.
You are right, your wood is still too wet...to check it, get a few pieces and let them warm to room temp in the house, then split open so that you can test the freshly exposed faces, in the middle, preferably with pins parallel to the grain. Testing externally means nothing.
I know they state "18-28%", but it's been my, and others here experience that anything much over 18-20% shortens burn time and heat to the house.
 
Unless you are burning pine, or some other fast drying wood, you'll need to stockpile your wood so that it can be split n stacked to dry for at least 2 full summers...3 for oak and other slow drying species.
Top cover the stack, leaving the sides open for air flow.
 
Oh, and if you have short splits, you can stand some on end in the back, then fill the front in normally.
 
Thank you for the reply! I'll experiment with keep the draft closer to .06 - I was under the impression that I should be closer to .08 but once the fire gets going keeping it lower probably makes good sense.

I'll try stacking the wood as you suggest. It also dawned on me when cleaning out the ashes after the last burn that I am likely not loading the furnace all of the way. The smoke guard makes it a little deceptive in terms of how much height there is in there. Do you load it all the way up the ceiling when you are loading? Just ensuring that the smoke guard comes back down?

I like the idea of splitting a piece of wood to see what the moisture level it's at. Sounds like you are saying that the exterior moisture readings are deceptively low and my wood is more likely still quite wet. I'll take a reading next weekend and report back.
 
Do you load it all the way up the ceiling when you are loading? Just ensuring that the smoke guard comes back down?
Well I rarely need that much heat for my place so I don't often load that high, but yes when its that cold I'll jam it as full as I can and still get the flap down...sometimes that even means strategic loading, as in loading a shorter piece, holding it up in place and sliding a longer one under it, but that is pretty rare for me. I've had times where I couldn't get the flap back down before the wood started to take off and it ran fine without damage to the flap...some people even take them off and leave them, but I like to make sure no smoke goes in the house, and the flaps do help with that so...
Sounds like you are saying that the exterior moisture readings are deceptively low and my wood is more likely still quite wet
Exactly
 
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I looked this morning, draft is set at -0.03", and running less than half loads...usually not more than 1x/day.
Are you doing cold starts all the time? These things run better when loading on some hot coals...sometimes I'll burn a very small load down, just for hot coals...that's the spark plug that really fires off the gasification process
 
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