I'm getting serious about buying a PTO logging winch. My tractor is a 45 HP Zetor 5245. With a front loader and loaded tires, it is over 8000 pounds. My search for a used unit in my area has come up empty....so this forces me to look at new. I've searched around and I think the Wallenstein FX90 is likely my choice. I guess the thing I like the most is it has an integral trailer hitch on the backside of the unit, so I can still pull a wagon around without having to take off the winch. I'm thinking once I put the winch on, it likely will not come off. http://www.embmfg.com/Forestry/Winches/FX90.aspx 165' of 3/8" line. 3/8" is smaller than I expected, but it is somewhat common. Does anyone have any experience with a Wallenstein? I have read good things about their stuff but have never owned any or had first hand sight of any. Price for the FX90 is about 3400. I live in the middle of 44 acres. I have a few logging roads through the woods, but I find it very difficult to go in with either the tractor or 4-wheeler with wagon to drop, block, and haul stuff out. I'd prefer not to mash everything up by driving through the bush, hence the winch. What do other folks do without a winch? Do you just use a long cable with a block? How does one handle a 100' plus line if not on a winch spool? I'd rather not spend the money...one can buy at least three years of wood for this price in long length, perhaps 4-5. Yet buying wood when I live in the middle of 44 acres seems really stupid. I enjoy the work involved, though I have been cutting near the logging roads to minimize carrying blocks back to the wagon. That gets old pretty fast. Never will be a cash making opportunity for me. Heck, I might let others use my tractor and winch just to get more run time on it. I likely only run about 30 hours a year...thoguh with the winch I suspect this will jump up a bit. There's also quite a bit of annual fall every year that is off the roads quite a bit...and therefore hard to get. I'm thinking the winch will make easy work of this. My thoughts are I can create a new road or two so I can reach just about eveywhere with a 165' line. So I'm looking for comments on winches, Wallensteins, and how folks get trees out of the bush without a winch. Is there something I'm missing? Do folks just clear all the small stuff so they can more readily drive through the bush? Thanks!