My first stack ever.

  • Active since 1995, Hearth.com is THE place on the internet for free information and advice about wood stoves, pellet stoves and other energy saving equipment.

    We strive to provide opinions, articles, discussions and history related to Hearth Products and in a more general sense, energy issues.

    We promote the EFFICIENT, RESPONSIBLE, CLEAN and SAFE use of all fuels, whether renewable or fossil.
Status
Not open for further replies.

freddypd

Burning Hunk
Jan 3, 2012
133
Long Island NY
My wood insert is due to be installed in a couple of weeks. I know I am behind on getting seasoned wood, but I will have to do my best.
This was a gift from a friend. He took it off his property in May of this year. Locust I believe?
My first stack ever.
 
Here is my first delivery. Supposedly 2 heavy cords all hardwoods. Surprised how erratic the cuts were. They ranged from 10" to about 24". He said seasoned 1 1/2 years. I doubt it though. Moisture meter read about 21% throughout the stack. I know it is not very neat, but it was my first attempt. My wife even helped me. I am shocked how supportive of this whole thing she is. I am also sick as a dog, but couldn't wait to get out there and start stacking. This could be addicting huh?
My first stack ever.
 
I think I will also keep a small pile on the front porch so it is easier for the family to retrieve and load when I am not around. I am sure I am going to need more wood. If it is a cold winter I would probably go through 5 cords, especially as a beginner? I am thinking of ordering 2 more cords and then start scrounging for the future?
My first stack ever.
 
  • Like
Reactions: scotvl and ScotO
Well done, they look a lot neater than my first stacks!!!!!!!!

And get well soon :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: mfglickman
Nice work! It's always good to have the wife helping.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ScotO
nicely done....the more help stacking the better.
 
Wow that looks good! How big is your house, how central is your stove, how well insulated is the house? Are you using any other heat source? Those things will help people here determine how much you might need. This is going to be our first full winter in a poorly insulated, drafty antique 2000SF house so I'm guessing on 4-5 cords here but I could be radically wrong on that! We only burned half of last winter and it was mild, I think we may have done 2 cords, but we also supplemented with pressed brick and our wood was not so good, so lots of factors.

If your delivery wood was seasoned 1.5 years it should feel kind of light for its size when you lift it (assuming it's dry, not been rained on in the past few days), and if you knock a piece against a stone wall or two pieces against each other it should have a hollow ring to it. It's also usually not at all shiny, but more like a weathered color (most of mine is gray but I'd not be surprised if it can be browns/tans/yellows etc.). My moisture meter is all over the map so no help there, sorry.

We are going to keep a stack near the house, like yours,against a stone wall, this year. We have one of those LLBean log carriers that's 3 sided so the splits don't fall out and I LOVE this thing because you can carry a lot without dropping, even in the snow. We have a wood box in the house that holds maybe 1-2 days' worth as well.

Oh and BTW I am proof that "the wife" can and will get involved. Send her trolling on Craigslist and noticing abandoned wood by the side of the road, and you two will have a lot of fun with this!
 
Great start Freddy; good to have a supportive wife to help!
 
Nice work....second year burner here....it is a sickness. It strikes me as soon as the heat of August/September goes away. After that my wife sees less of me and the wood racks see more of me. You've got a great start!
 
My wood insert is due to be installed in a couple of weeks. I know I am behind on getting seasoned wood, but I will have to do my best.
This was a gift from a friend. He took it off his property in May of this year. Locust I believe?
Yeah, that looks like BL from here. If it has been split and stacked since May, or is from a dead standing tree with the bark falling off, it may burn pretty well. Watch that BL, it burns hot when it's dry. Read around in this forum to find some ways to get by if you don't have dry wood yet. Welcome to the Shed! :)
 
Question about purchased firewood. I realize a lot of firewood dealers are like car salesman. They will tell you whatever you want to hear. The guy who delivered was recommended from the guy that is putting our insert in. He said he was going to deliver 2 cords and it would probably actually be more because he loads his trailer to overflowing which should be more than 2 cords. Yeah, yeah....blah blah blah....Does this math make sense:

1 full cord = 4x4x8=128
I have 4x4x12=192 192/128=1.5 cords. (and that is with me making those corners with the wood spaced apart.)

He told me to call him if there are any discrepancies. Am I being too picky? Paid 300 for the "2" cords delivered. My tree guy recommended someone that would deliver 3 cords for 360, but he was honest enough to tell me that the best he could do was maybe 10 months seasoned.
 
Wow that looks good! How big is your house, how central is your stove, how well insulated is the house? Are you using any other heat source? Those things will help people here determine how much you might need. This is going to be our first full winter in a poorly insulated, drafty antique 2000SF house so I'm guessing on 4-5 cords here but I could be radically wrong on that! We only burned half of last winter and it was mild, I think we may have done 2 cords, but we also supplemented with pressed brick and our wood was not so good, so lots of factors.

If your delivery wood was seasoned 1.5 years it should feel kind of light for its size when you lift it (assuming it's dry, not been rained on in the past few days), and if you knock a piece against a stone wall or two pieces against each other it should have a hollow ring to it. It's also usually not at all shiny, but more like a weathered color (most of mine is gray but I'd not be surprised if it can be browns/tans/yellows etc.). My moisture meter is all over the map so no help there, sorry.

We are going to keep a stack near the house, like yours,against a stone wall, this year. We have one of those LLBean log carriers that's 3 sided so the splits don't fall out and I LOVE this thing because you can carry a lot without dropping, even in the snow. We have a wood box in the house that holds maybe 1-2 days' worth as well.

Oh and BTW I am proof that "the wife" can and will get involved. Send her trolling on Craigslist and noticing abandoned wood by the side of the road, and you two will have a lot of fun with this!

Maybe 2000 square foot ranch. Pretty well insulated. All new windows. Still feels drafty to me in the past winters. The living area is very open. Kitchen has tall cathedral ceiling. Bedrooms are down a narrow hallway. I'd like to heat exclusively with wood in the living area during the day and maybe supplement in the bedrooms with oil/baseboard heat if needed at night.
 
Freddy - I'm going to say you want 5 cords of wood on hand for this winter, although I think that may be a bit high, better safe than sorry. If you have locust that is 21% then you are in good shape. Did you split a piece and measure the fresh face to get that reading? As for stacking the wood next to the house, that is a great idea for those days when you have snow, wind, sickness, or any other reason keeping you from hauling wood in.
 
Question about purchased firewood. I realize a lot of firewood dealers are like car salesman. They will tell you whatever you want to hear. The guy who delivered was recommended from the guy that is putting our insert in. He said he was going to deliver 2 cords and it would probably actually be more because he loads his trailer to overflowing which should be more than 2 cords. Yeah, yeah....blah blah blah....Does this math make sense:

1 full cord = 4x4x8=128
I have 4x4x12=192 192/128=1.5 cords. (and that is with me making those corners with the wood spaced apart.)

He told me to call him if there are any discrepancies. Am I being too picky? Paid 300 for the "2" cords delivered. My tree guy recommended someone that would deliver 3 cords for 360, but he was honest enough to tell me that the best he could do was maybe 10 months seasoned.
Your math is right....Nice job stacking. And if wood is reading 21 percent you are lucky,
 
Question about purchased firewood. I realize a lot of firewood dealers are like car salesman. They will tell you whatever you want to hear. The guy who delivered was recommended from the guy that is putting our insert in. He said he was going to deliver 2 cords and it would probably actually be more because he loads his trailer to overflowing which should be more than 2 cords. Yeah, yeah....blah blah blah....Does this math make sense:

1 full cord = 4x4x8=128
I have 4x4x12=192 192/128=1.5 cords. (and that is with me making those corners with the wood spaced apart.)

He told me to call him if there are any discrepancies. Am I being too picky? Paid 300 for the "2" cords delivered. My tree guy recommended someone that would deliver 3 cords for 360, but he was honest enough to tell me that the best he could do was maybe 10 months seasoned.


Looks like you have this figured out Freddy. For sure that did not look like 2 cord to me and when you posted the figures, well, what can we say? I would get hold of the guy and tell him exactly what you have and invite him over to see and measure it. Somehow he must be using some different figures to come up with 2 cord. Or is this another case of the "face cord" measurement?

I like that you intend on getting that much wood. Perhaps you won't need that much this winter but now is a great time to begin thinking about next winter. When you get into the ideal situation, you will always be 3 years ahead on your wood supply. You will also be amazed at the difference it makes! You will find your fires burn much better, you will get more heat from the wood so you will use less wood and another bonus is you won't have creosote problems.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ScotO and milleo
I think it will take some dedication to burn five full cords, but it would be nice to have that much on hand just in case.

I can't tell if that first picture is locust or not. It is hard to tell from the picture.

If you are buying wood at 21% you are way ahead of the game. Yeah, I'd call the guy and tell him you got only 1.5 cords. Maybe he will make it good, maybe not. Either way you'll want to know since he sells wood that is actually seasoned, which is not the norm.
 
Nice start.
 
nice work and good preparation for a first time burner. I would contact the seller about the shortage but be cordial with him because not many firewood sellers have seasoned wood thats near 21%.
 
Welcome, Freddy. There are a lot of enablers here to feed that addiction. You have a good start. There is an imposter split of ash in your black locust pile, lower center in the front row.
 
Good start Freddy. Hope you feel better soon.
But, your first stack is BL? Really? Jackpot.
If you end up getting 2 dry full cord from the guy for $300, be happy. That's a good price, and a good find.
I can get 2 cord of fresh split (wet) oak for about $330 or so around here all day.
 
Nice stacks.
Nice start to getting prepped for winter.
1st winter you learn allot. It's a guess on how much you'll burn. Winters vary every year.

Sounds like you are having fun with it. Beware: You are right, it can become addictive :)

Just don't get so carried away that you start hoping for snow & cold weather soon ;)
 
Welcome, Freddy. There are a lot of enablers here to feed that addiction. You have a good start. There is an imposter split of ash in your black locust pile, lower center in the front row.

Holy Cr#$! I don't see the exact piece of ash that you see, but I did have a random split hanging around the house that my friend stuck in the pile. Great eyes! You must be great at that I spy game.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.