OK.... so I bought a cheap saw

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Trktrd

Feeling the Heat
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Nov 12, 2010
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Arkansas
It's a 40cc Ryobi with an 18" bar. Starts and runs good, has a few cords under it's belt. Here's the issue. At first it runs and idles great but after a while of use the idle goes thru the roof and the switch won't even turn it off. If I put the switch in the off position then gun it, it will die. I do most cutting with the Echo but I like this thing for the big stuff which it handles pretty well. If It would stop acting goofy I might use it more. Any Ideas?? (besides making a lawn ornament out of it)
 
It's just a rocker switch that should kill the ignition. That's a puzzler why it won't shut off. When the idle speed isn' "screamin" it works fine.
 
I would start by cleaning the air filter. Just a quick guess.
 
I had it apart the other day and cleaned everything. Only happens when the saw is hot. And this thing gets HOT. Even trimmed the throttle cable housing down a bit because of no more adjustment. I'm thinking this is just a poorly designed saw.
 
Trktrd said:
I had it apart the other day and cleaned everything. Only happens when the saw is hot. And this thing gets HOT. Even trimmed the throttle cable housing down a bit because of no more adjustment. I'm thinking this is just a poorly designed saw.


Its hard to say I was hoping it had never been cleaned before! Does it have carb adjustments? If not this would be a good one to try the sea foam on.
 
Carb screws are sealed off with something or other. Seafoam????
 
I had a dirtbike that used to do that, turned out it was drawing air thru the jug gasket.
 
Well I'm fixin' to head to the woods and give this thing another go. I'll pull it apart one more time and see what the deal is.
 
Trktrd said:
Carb screws are sealed off with something or other. Seafoam????

Just a gas additive and can cure a lot of little thing that could be causing issues.
 
Hmmmm... Might just have some Lucas stuff, I'll give it a try
 
Trktrd said:
Hmmmm... Might just have some Lucas stuff, I'll give it a try

Its worth it on these kinda saws with on adjustments. There just not much else you can do.
 
There is a piece of carbon glued to the top of the cylinder. It is dieseling. The carbon gets red hot and keep igniting the fuel after you shut it off.

My guess.
 
BrotherBart said:
There is a piece of carbon glued to the top of the cylinder. It is dieseling. The carbon gets red hot and keep igniting the fuel after you shut it off.

My guess.

Thats a good guess!
 
May not be the right answer, but certainly the best!
 
DanCorcoran said:
May not be the right answer, but certainly the best!


sea foam will fix that! ;-)
 
Messed with it a little and decided too nasty out to be playing in the woods. So here I am by the fire, nice and toasty. Tightened up the screws that hold the carb on, maybe 1/8 turn each, don't know if it will help but oh well, ya get what you pay for. Seems we got alot of seafoam fans around here. Are you guys bs'n me or does this stuff really work?
 
If it is a piece of carbon after only a "few cords under it's belt" I would dump all the gas and get some new 91 octane stihl ultra mix and seafoam.
 
Sounds like my recent used HD Makita - air leak from a loose spark plug caused overheating and dieseling. Unfortunately not all air leaks are so easy to find and fix.
 
I guess I should get into it further - ie: hunt down my small metric tools. It's probably something stupid that's just a pain to get to.
 
+1 on the dieseling that BrotherBart suggested.If it's not carbon in the cylinder then the saw is running extremely lean due to a mis-adjusted carb or air leak somewhere. Since the saw tends to idle high, I'd go after an air leak. Double check spark plug, muffler screws, and carb studs first for tightness. If you can find any missing or damaged gaskets in the intake stack (I'm not sure what that particular saw has for boots, spacers, impulse lines, etc.) then you might have to pressure check the crankcase. You also might get lucky spraying small amounts of carb cleaner around the intake stack to check for air leaks. I'd do that only if the saw was cold, start it up and spray little puffs of carb cleaner at gasket joints, impulse lines, and any boots. If the saw revs up then you have a leak.
 
Thanks MM, I'll try your ideas today. Just puzzles me why it only acts up after about 10-15 minutes of use.
 
Trktrd said:
Messed with it a little and decided too nasty out to be playing in the woods. So here I am by the fire, nice and toasty. Tightened up the screws that hold the carb on, maybe 1/8 turn each, don't know if it will help but oh well, ya get what you pay for. Seems we got alot of seafoam fans around here. Are you guys bs'n me or does this stuff really work?


Seafoam is great stuff. I run it through everything. (cars, boat, mower, splitter, mower ) You get the idea.

Really cleans up the gunk.
 
Hi
I tried Seafome for the first time a couple of days ago.Had a small snowmachein with a 4 cycol that hadn't run in a couple of years.It took a while to get it running but as soon as it was running you could tell that it was getting better.After a few minuits it would idel and start easyly.Seemed like a good test for it.
Thomas
 
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