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2011 still has on and half hours left to her in our neck of the woods... But Happy New Year to all! May your fires burn clean and warm in 2012 and all your wood be well-seasoned!
huffdawg
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jebatty
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Not only a New Year - but also a New Day! Make this day extra special for someone who doesn't expect it.
Gasifier
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woodsmaster said:
Thanks woodsmaster! And a Happy New Year to you and everyone in the boiler room and all Hearth.com members.
yea I do hope the Mayans are wrong because they predicted the world to end on 12/21/12, my birthday, which creates a dilemma I usually have a cigar after a steak dinner on that day, now I have to contemplate doing that at breakfast.? That just seems wrong which must mean the Mayans are wrong as well. Have a safe and prosperous year all!
huffdawg
Minister of Fire
Who predicted the end of the world?
The short answer is that neither the Mayans nor Nostradamus predicted the end of the world in 2012 – at least, not exactly.
•The Mayans’ long count calendar ends in December of 2012, but that does not necessarily mean doom.
•Nostradamus has NO exact prediction that conclusively dates to 2012.
Now, the long answer is a bit more interesting.
The Mayan 2012 Calendar
The fact that the Mayan long count calendar ends in December of 2012 is no secret. This calendar spans over 5,000 years and its conclusion was of great importance to the Mayans. The end of this calendar meant the end of the age! However, the Mayan calendar itself does not indicate the end of the world, just the end of the age – with a new age beginning on the following day. There were even three previous ages. Granted, they all ended with some great event, but not the end of the world.
It was an archeologist by the name Michael Coe who (in 1966) first brought forth the idea of Armageddon occurring on this date – the completion of the Mayan 2012 calendar. Now, Coe is not just any archeologist – he is one of the greatest living experts on ancient Mayan culture. Furthermore, he has a doctorate in anthropology from Harvard and he worked for the CIA. I am only giving you this brief biography so that you would not merely dismiss him as a crack pot.
(You can see one his books, Breaking the Maya Code, on Amazon.)
So, did the Mayans predict the end of the world in 2012?
No, but Dr. Michael Coe did study the ancient Mayan texts and it is his interpretation that there is a possibility that Armageddon would occur at the completion of the Mayan long count calendar in 2012.
Nostradamus and 2012
You must know that frankly Nostradamus predicted a whole bunch of stuff. Also, nothing of any significance ever happens without someone claiming that Nostradamus predicted it. I just want to make that part very clear here in the beginning.
However, there is a very interesting prediction of Nostradamus that does seem to give credence to the many people who combine his predictions with the 2012 date.
“After a great misery of mankind, an even greater approaches. The great cycle of the centuries renewed, it will rain blood, milk, famine, war, disease. In the sky will be seen a great fire dragging a trail of sparks.â€
Before we go any farther, know this: this is the EXACT same prediction that was used before Y2K to show that Nostradamus predicted the end of the world in 2000. It seemed to make sense for them then too, but it did NOT happen.
So now this prediction (and many similar ones) has been attributed to the 2012 Mayan date. The reason is because what could be a greater meaning for “great cycle of the centuries renewed†than the ending of a 5,000 year old calendar? So, it seems to make some sense at least.
Furthermore, there has been almost a worldwide fear of an asteroid or comet striking the earth ever since it was demonstrated that this may have been what killed the dinosaurs… So, “in the sky will be seen a great fire dragging a trail sparks†has been translated to mean a comet or asteroid striking the earth. This passage has also been translated to mean a missile strike or nuclear war.
So, did Nostradamus predict the end of the world in 2012?
No, but some of his predictions may potentially be relevant… or not.
I THINK THE MAYANS BETTER START WRITING A NEW CALENDAR OR WERE DOOMED .. :bug:
HUFF
The short answer is that neither the Mayans nor Nostradamus predicted the end of the world in 2012 – at least, not exactly.
•The Mayans’ long count calendar ends in December of 2012, but that does not necessarily mean doom.
•Nostradamus has NO exact prediction that conclusively dates to 2012.
Now, the long answer is a bit more interesting.
The Mayan 2012 Calendar
The fact that the Mayan long count calendar ends in December of 2012 is no secret. This calendar spans over 5,000 years and its conclusion was of great importance to the Mayans. The end of this calendar meant the end of the age! However, the Mayan calendar itself does not indicate the end of the world, just the end of the age – with a new age beginning on the following day. There were even three previous ages. Granted, they all ended with some great event, but not the end of the world.
It was an archeologist by the name Michael Coe who (in 1966) first brought forth the idea of Armageddon occurring on this date – the completion of the Mayan 2012 calendar. Now, Coe is not just any archeologist – he is one of the greatest living experts on ancient Mayan culture. Furthermore, he has a doctorate in anthropology from Harvard and he worked for the CIA. I am only giving you this brief biography so that you would not merely dismiss him as a crack pot.
(You can see one his books, Breaking the Maya Code, on Amazon.)
So, did the Mayans predict the end of the world in 2012?
No, but Dr. Michael Coe did study the ancient Mayan texts and it is his interpretation that there is a possibility that Armageddon would occur at the completion of the Mayan long count calendar in 2012.
Nostradamus and 2012
You must know that frankly Nostradamus predicted a whole bunch of stuff. Also, nothing of any significance ever happens without someone claiming that Nostradamus predicted it. I just want to make that part very clear here in the beginning.
However, there is a very interesting prediction of Nostradamus that does seem to give credence to the many people who combine his predictions with the 2012 date.
“After a great misery of mankind, an even greater approaches. The great cycle of the centuries renewed, it will rain blood, milk, famine, war, disease. In the sky will be seen a great fire dragging a trail of sparks.â€
Before we go any farther, know this: this is the EXACT same prediction that was used before Y2K to show that Nostradamus predicted the end of the world in 2000. It seemed to make sense for them then too, but it did NOT happen.
So now this prediction (and many similar ones) has been attributed to the 2012 Mayan date. The reason is because what could be a greater meaning for “great cycle of the centuries renewed†than the ending of a 5,000 year old calendar? So, it seems to make some sense at least.
Furthermore, there has been almost a worldwide fear of an asteroid or comet striking the earth ever since it was demonstrated that this may have been what killed the dinosaurs… So, “in the sky will be seen a great fire dragging a trail sparks†has been translated to mean a comet or asteroid striking the earth. This passage has also been translated to mean a missile strike or nuclear war.
So, did Nostradamus predict the end of the world in 2012?
No, but some of his predictions may potentially be relevant… or not.
I THINK THE MAYANS BETTER START WRITING A NEW CALENDAR OR WERE DOOMED .. :bug:
HUFF
Gasifier
Minister of Fire
Huff,
I'm sorry, I gotta know. Did you just pull that outta your ass?
:lol:
(Actually, I found that interesting.Thanks.)
I'm sorry, I gotta know. Did you just pull that outta your ass?
:lol:
(Actually, I found that interesting.Thanks.)
Goof one, Huff.
No comets or asteroids, NASA will let us know, no???LOL
That leaves two things:
a) Nukes(in that case I want to BE THE BULLSEYE!!) or
b)...THE ALIENS ARE COMING BAAAAAAAACK....get your gear ready
Happy thoughts and comic relief in 2012.
Scott
No comets or asteroids, NASA will let us know, no???LOL
That leaves two things:
a) Nukes(in that case I want to BE THE BULLSEYE!!) or
b)...THE ALIENS ARE COMING BAAAAAAAACK....get your gear ready
Happy thoughts and comic relief in 2012.
Scott
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