Lookin' at a used 30

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bluedogz

bluedogz

Minister of Fire
Oct 9, 2011
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Making a run up to East Noplace, PA on Sunday to check out a used NC30.

I'm thinking:
- need to see if it has the blower (owner didn't know(?!))
- check for broken bits, obviously

What else you reckon I should watch out for?

Also, I'll bring the landscape trailer to cart it home. Can it be toted with an appliance dolly?
 
I set my old stove (500 lbs) on a applicance dolly and it worke well and I believe it was rated at 1000 lbs or so.
 
Check for evidence of overfiring (a whitish color on the paint).
 
bluedogz said:
Making a run up to East Noplace, PA on Sunday to check out a used NC30.

I'm thinking:
- need to see if it has the blower (owner didn't know(?!))
- check for broken bits, obviously

What else you reckon I should watch out for?

Also, I'll bring the landscape trailer to cart it home. Can it be toted with an appliance dolly?
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Is the blower on the 30 the same as the blower on the 13? If so I have a brand new one from a 13 I returned that I never used. Any interest in it?
 
Check the baffle boards in the top of the firebox. And if you move the stove take off the door and take the firebrick and ash plug out. Knocks off over a hundred pounds. Take a 1/4" drive ratchet and 5/16" socket with you and remove the front burn tube and ease the baffle boards out for transport. The screw holding the tube in place is on the left side as you look into the firebox. Take out the screw, slide the tube to the right and remove it.
 
Out of curiousity, what are they asking? I am asking only because the 30 can be purchased for dirt cheap(under 600) new from Home Depot if you wait for a sale and get the 10% coupon online.
 
If it is on legs, take them off before trying to move it. They will snap. I would bring a floor jack and raise the stove off the ground, take the feet off, put some 6x6 under the sides and lower the stove onto the blocks. Now you can slide the dolly under the stove and work the blocks out. Bring some plywood to get over steps or bumps too.
 
fran35 said:
Out of curiousity, what are they asking? I am asking only because the 30 can be purchased for dirt cheap(under 600) new from Home Depot if you wait for a sale and get the 10% coupon online.
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She's asking $500; I had expected to offer something less based on data gathered here.
 
My brother-in-law just sold one a month or two ago for $400. He burns green wood exclusively and couldn't understand why he couldn't keep the house warm.
 
KevinG said:
My brother-in-law just sold one a month or two ago for $400. He burns green wood exclusively and couldn't understand why he couldn't keep the house warm.
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&%$!
 
Is that the one I posted Blue? See if she will give you the connector with it.
Look for warpage of the panels, maybe take a straight edge and check the front surface where the door seals against, check door also.
Check gaskets, and yes for whitish areas for signs of overfire. Bring a good box to put the bricks in. And maybe a wrap to wrap the door in.
Furniture dolly or hand truck will make moving much easier. Don't forget the ratchet straps. If you need a hand, let me know.
If she will throw in the piping, hell grab it.
Looks like it has the pedestal, she might have the legs that came with it also if you like them. If your going to paint it, do it before you install.
The trim pcs on the front edges come off, I suggest taking them off just in case so they don't blow off going down the road.
Bart is right, take everything off/out that you can to make it lighter and a lil more easier to manage.
Good luck!
 
Hogwildz said:
Is that the one I posted Blue? See if she will give you the connector with it.
Look for warpage of the panels, maybe take a straight edge and check the front surface where the door seals against, check door also.
Check gaskets, and yes for whitish areas for signs of overfire. Bring a good box to put the bricks in. And maybe a wrap to wrap the door in.
Furniture dolly or hand truck will make moving much easier. Don't forget the ratchet straps. If you need a hand, let me know.
If she will throw in the piping, hell grab it.
Looks like it has the pedestal, she might have the legs that came with it also if you like them. If your going to paint it, do it before you install.
The trim pcs on the front edges come off, I suggest taking them off just in case so they don't blow off going down the road.
Bart is right, take everything off/out that you can to make it lighter and a lil more easier to manage.
Good luck!
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It is!

The reason I feel any hesitation is that this owner is CLUELESS. She stated she spent $1100 on the stove but it sat in her garage for a year because she did not have any stovepipe. Also did not know the model other than "the one Lowe's has, not the small one."

WTH is Shamokin, anyway? I asked her and it sounded like she said "near the Nickel Wal-Mart."
 
bluedogz said:
Hogwildz said:
Is that the one I posted Blue? See if she will give you the connector with it.
Look for warpage of the panels, maybe take a straight edge and check the front surface where the door seals against, check door also.
Check gaskets, and yes for whitish areas for signs of overfire. Bring a good box to put the bricks in. And maybe a wrap to wrap the door in.
Furniture dolly or hand truck will make moving much easier. Don't forget the ratchet straps. If you need a hand, let me know.
If she will throw in the piping, hell grab it.
Looks like it has the pedestal, she might have the legs that came with it also if you like them. If your going to paint it, do it before you install.
The trim pcs on the front edges come off, I suggest taking them off just in case so they don't blow off going down the road.
Bart is right, take everything off/out that you can to make it lighter and a lil more easier to manage.
Good luck!
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It is!

The reason I feel any hesitation is that this owner is CLUELESS. She stated she spent $1100 on the stove but it sat in her garage for a year because she did not have any stovepipe. Also did not know the model other than "the one Lowe's has, not the small one."

WTH is Shamokin, anyway? I asked her and it sounded like she said "near the Nickel Wal-Mart."
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Did she say why she was getting rid of it? My guess is she burnt wet wood and had no success...translating into a damn near new stove that prolly never saw 1/2 it's heat potential, meaning no overfire worries. Prolly was not a 24/7 burner either. I think you may have struck paydirt here, hope so anyways. The plate on the back should tell you which model it is, but def looks like a 30 to me. Shamokin is the town she is in as listed on the CL add. Many towns named with Native Indian names in these parts. Remember, invite is always open.
 
Hogwildz said:
bluedogz said:
Hogwildz said:
Is that the one I posted Blue? See if she will give you the connector with it.
Look for warpage of the panels, maybe take a straight edge and check the front surface where the door seals against, check door also.
Check gaskets, and yes for whitish areas for signs of overfire. Bring a good box to put the bricks in. And maybe a wrap to wrap the door in.
Furniture dolly or hand truck will make moving much easier. Don't forget the ratchet straps. If you need a hand, let me know.
If she will throw in the piping, hell grab it.
Looks like it has the pedestal, she might have the legs that came with it also if you like them. If your going to paint it, do it before you install.
The trim pcs on the front edges come off, I suggest taking them off just in case so they don't blow off going down the road.
Bart is right, take everything off/out that you can to make it lighter and a lil more easier to manage.
Good luck!
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It is!

The reason I feel any hesitation is that this owner is CLUELESS. She stated she spent $1100 on the stove but it sat in her garage for a year because she did not have any stovepipe. Also did not know the model other than "the one Lowe's has, not the small one."

WTH is Shamokin, anyway? I asked her and it sounded like she said "near the Nickel Wal-Mart."
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Did she say why she was getting rid of it? My guess is she burnt wet wood and had no success...translating into a damn near new stove that prolly never saw 1/2 it's heat potential, meaning no overfire worries. Prolly was not a 24/7 burner either. I think you may have struck paydirt here, hope so anyways. The plate on the back should tell you which model it is, but def looks like a 30 to me. Shamokin is the town she is in as listed on the CL add. Many towns named with Native Indian names in these parts. Remember, invite is always open.
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She said she didn't get to use it for a year, while she lived with a relative. Now, she has moved in with boyfriend and they burn oil.

So, my guess is, you're probably right. It does LOOK like a 30, but before I hoof it up there I'm going to ask her to check.

Oh yeah- assuming there's nothing damaged or broken, the old horse-trading biker in me will ask, "So, how much you really need?" as I carry $250 in one pocket and $250 in the other. If she says, "Weeelll, I need $250 for the rent," I'd normally say, 'Imagine that- I have exactly that much on me!" If she says, "I need $500 or you can eff off," well, I have that much.

Is such horse-trading frowned on in the woodburners' world?
 
There is no question. The stove in that pic is a 30-NC.
 
That's a great start, BBart. Thanks!

Oh, and Hogz, which connector are you referring to?
 
I just took another look at that pic. Check the door sealing on that stove. That door handle is pointing farther down than it should be with the door closed. Possibly they had the door cracked open for the pic but it doesn't look like it.

Edit: Well, maybe not. It might be the angle the pic was taken from. Just looked at mine from the same angle and it looks like that.
 
Well said... a dollar bill check takes three seconds. Thanks for the heads-up!
 
I was referring to the pipe to stove outlet connector. Maybe double wall DVL? Dunno, but good to have around if you ever go that route.
If she says she needs $250.00 to make the rent, I wouldn't beat her up too much. If she is that hurting, she needs the money more than you or I. Just my opinion, not everyone thinks as I do, and I understand and am okay with that. If it is in like new condition, your getting one hell of a deal.
 
Agreed. Just makes me think back many years to my riding days...

Me and a bud were hanging around the parking area of a bike shop in Gainesville, FL; kid rolls up on a Honda Hawk (which was hot at the time), says
"you guys know if they buy used bikes here? I need to sell this."
Me: 'I dunno, but I'd give you $500 for it." (Bike worth about $3000)
Kid: "Cash?"

I still have the toolbox that kid bought me.
 
Gainesville, did you see any of the Skynyrd boys?
 
bluedogz said:
Making a run up to East Noplace, PA on Sunday to check out a used NC30.

Also, I'll bring the landscape trailer to cart it home. Can it be toted with an appliance dolly?
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I live just west of East noplace (shamokin) You get there either going up 81 and get off on 901 or go to harrisburg and go up 11-15 to sunbury then 61 to shamokin.
The stove weighs 425LBS so you better have a good appliance dolly and if you have steps good luck if your alone.
Id would be buying this stove myself if i didnt have two 30s already.
 
Seasoned Oak said:
bluedogz said:
Making a run up to East Noplace, PA on Sunday to check out a used NC30.

Also, I'll bring the landscape trailer to cart it home. Can it be toted with an appliance dolly?
Click to expand...

I live just west of East noplace (shamokin) You get there either going up 81 and get off on 901 or go to harrisburg and go up 11-15 to sunbury then 61 to shamokin.
The stove weighs 425LBS so you better have a good appliance dolly and if you have steps good luck if your alone.
Id would be buying this stove myself if i didnt have two 30s already.
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425 lbs. including removing the door and firebricks? Or less than that?

I only have one step to get up, so no big deal there.

You have a PM also...
 
Huntindog1 said:
Gainesville, did you see any of the Skynyrd boys?
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No, no... one of the LATER Honda Hawks, not the classic 350/4. Jeex, I'm not THAT old.
 
bluedogz said:
Seasoned Oak said:
bluedogz said:
Making a run up to East Noplace, PA on Sunday to check out a used NC30.

Also, I'll bring the landscape trailer to cart it home. Can it be toted with an appliance dolly?
Click to expand...

I live just west of East noplace (shamokin) You get there either going up 81 and get off on 901 or go to harrisburg and go up 11-15 to sunbury then 61 to shamokin.
The stove weighs 425LBS so you better have a good appliance dolly and if you have steps good luck if your alone.
Id would be buying this stove myself if i didnt have two 30s already.
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425 lbs. including removing the door and firebricks? Or less than that?

I only have one step to get up, so no big deal there.

You have a PM also...
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Im referring to steps getting it out of the house where your buying it from. Its listed at 425 before you take anything off. Definitely take out the firebricks or they may go thru the door glass. I moved mine with a good appliance truck strapped on tight and it is a mule to get around,and i didnt have any steps. Good luck.
 
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