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Sinngetreu

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I could use your help if you don't mind.(Mods, I hope this is fine)

My wife works for a very small town newspaper, and she was asked to write a series of articles on wood burning safety and helpful tips. What are some things that you wish you knew better or was told about when you started wood burning?
One of the first things that I can think of right of the top of my head is the importance of dry wood. Another would be the standard safety suggestions like combustible clearances. What say you?
 
Burning dry wood, how long it actually takes for wood to dry (>12 months at least, sometimes longer for denser species), monitoring stove top temperatures (glowing stove bad), frequent chimney evaluations for creosote, the need for chimney liners and not slammer or direct vent installs (basically discussions of draft and large flue's and their propensity to develop creosote due to poor draft), insulation of liners.

But touching all these points may be difficult to do appropriately in one article.
 
Dry wood and smoke free burning. I believe that there are a lot of folks out there who believe oak can dry in less than a year as well as those who believe that smoke is "normal" if you are heating with wood. I'd think that if you challenge both of those assumptions you may make a difference.

Both are of course relate to safety too if that is the slant you are looking for as dry wood without smoke probably virtually eliminates the risk of a chimney fire eh?
 
Burning dry wood, how long it actually takes for wood to dry (>12 months at least, sometimes longer for denser species), monitoring stove top temperatures (glowing stove bad), frequent chimney evaluations for creosote, the need for chimney liners and not slammer or direct vent installs (basically discussions of draft and large flue's and their propensity to develop creosote due to poor draft), insulation of liners.

But touching all these points may be difficult to do appropriately in one article.

No worrys. This will be a series of articles. As many as needed from what I gathered. No limit.
 
Burn dry wood in a clean burning stove and head for hearth.com. ;lol
 
Proper disposal of ashes. Almost every year in my area we have a house fire due to careless disposal of ashes.

Do you have an example of how that might happen?
 
Great opportunity to get some good info. To go a little deeper I would add wood does not begin to dry until its split. Too many people think just cutting is good enough. For safety, clearances and sweeping. I also think the carbon neutral nature of burning is a topical point.

Give us a link when it's out there.
 
I used to write for the small town newspaper. Dry seasoned wood. Proper burning techniques. Keeping Chimney free of creosote. Pictures, lots of pictures. People
love pictures. :)
 
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I used to write for the small town newspaper. Dry seasoned wood. Proper burning techniques. Keeping Chimney free of creosote. Pictures, lots of pictures. People
love pictures. :)

Yep, the editor loves pictures too! ;lol
 
Yeah like my sig says and I said at the Decathlon in DC, lots of people make'em and lots of people sell'em but Hearth.com shows you how to use'em.
 
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Do you have an example of how that might happen?

People don't realize how long coals stay hot buried in ashes and don't dispose of them in a proper container. I've read of people putting what they thought were cold ashes in a combustible container (trash bag, paper grocery bag) and end up catching their deck or porch on fire. Ashes should go into a small metal container and then into a larger one outside until all coals are cold.
 
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Great idea!! Especially as a series of information regarding stoves, wood, wood gathering etc...

Certainly try to convey the message in as simple of terms as possible. The fact that a wood stove is not magic and there needs to be thought and preparation to get the most out of one.

Stove type, size, again expectations. Tips/tricks on how to move air throughout the house to get the most of your stove.

And obviously wood procurement, stacking, storage, timeline to dry, etc. As well as safe practices!!!

If it is ok per mods - use examples from people here to make points.

And the link to HEARTH.COM
 
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1. Take the time and money to install per manufacturer's specifications . . . and don't just rely on Uncle Phil for advice just because he's been using a woodstove since he was 10 years old. Paying close attention to the requirements for the hearth, clearances and being sure the appropriate flue and its adapaters are used are important (i.e. do not think putting single wall stove pipe through a cut out sheet of OSB stuck in a window is safe). Be sure to screw the stove pipe together . . . one experience with a back puff will make you happy that you took the five minutes to do so.

2. Pay attention to clearances . . . this goes back to the 1st item . . . but folks need to remember that this also means not sticking stuff too close to the woodstove that can catch on fire . . . such as that nice stack of firewood, cardboard box full of newspapers and kindling, etc.

3. Cleanliness is next to Godliness . . . or at least it is the next best thing to smoke detectors. Keep an eye on the chimney and inspect it frequently. Sweep it when needed.

4. Speaking of smoke detectors . . . make sure you have them and they work. If they're over 10 years old it's time to replace them. It's nice to have combination ionization/photo-electric smoke detectors or a few of each type in a home for the best protection. Carbon monoxide detectors are also good to have on hand . . . same goes for a fire extinguisher or two. Just remember though . . . if the detectors are going off in middle of the night the family should all know how to get out and where to meet outside . . . the time to practice a fire escape plan is not at 2 a.m. in middle of January.

5. Get some thermometers. Sure you don't really need them . . . then again you don't really need a speedometer or gas gauge in your car either. However, having thermometers on your stove and stove pipe (much like a speedometer and gas gauge) will help you learn how to operate the stove safely and more efficiently.

6. Dry wood is good wood . . . quite a bit has been said on this . . . all true. Folks who go from wood that is unseasoned or semi-seasoned to wood that has been cut, split and stacked for over a year or so typically have an epiphany when they realize what properly seasoned wood can do in their woodstove.

7. Dispose of your ashes properly. This is perhaps one of the biggest cause of fires that we tend to see . . . folks who toss what they think are their dead coals and ash into plastic buckets, bags, cardboard boxes, etc. and then stick it on the porch, deck, garage, etc. Treat all ash as if there is a live coal in the pile. Place outside into a covered metal pail and be sure it is not on or near any combustibles before disposing.

8. Take the time to learn the stove. Running new EPA stoves is not like running an old stove. I don't know how many times I have seen folks here come on to say they hate their new stove and it isn't pumping out the heat . . . only to find that they did not read the manual and learn how to operate their stove. Perhaps one of the most common errors is folks that equate more air with more flames and more heat . . . when the opposite tends to be true . . . once hot enough . . . generally less air equals more heat.

9. Finally, respect the stove, but don't fear it.
 
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From a safety perspective it would be good to include info on what makes a lined chimney (whether SS or clay) safe, as well as how flue size relates to that safety and the efficiency of a burn. Oversized flue = less efficient comubustion = more creosote/particulate. (Plus: one appliance per flue, negative pressure potential, etc.) A lot of people new to burning think only of the stove, forgetting the flue is an equally important but easily ignored component of the setup.

I think it would be very important, before dispensing burning tips, to talk about "old" stoves and "new" stoves. To me, in getting back into the new-stove market after 30 years of burning traditional stoves, the most essential piece of information hitting me between the eyes was the transformation of wood stoves from the airtight smoke dragons of the 70s (or even older parlor stoves and cookstoves) to the newer EPA stoves. Not only are these not airtight, they are made to be "leaky" on purpose! That move towards secondary combustion is a radical change in the dynamic of home woodburning that many people are unaware of and/or unable to quickly grasp wrt changes in their old habits of seasoning wood or operating a stove (leading many of us of a certain age to conclude "it can't be me or my wood, it must be the damn stove").

**Bonus points for any article putting to rest the still-perpetuated myth of "you can't burn pine"!!
 
Just make sure your wife is prepared for the phone calls and the opinion pieces that will come out after the articles are published.

People hold wood burning techniques that have been passed down from generations very close to their heart, telling them they are wrong often ignites much fodder.
 
Running new EPA stoves is not like running an old stove. I don't know how many times I have seen folks here come on to say they hate their new stove and it isn't pumping out the heat . . . only to find that they did not read the manual and learn how to operate their stove.

This is the point I was trying to stress in my post, and cannot be over-emphasized, especially when dealing with fathers and father-in-laws! After all, except for some tweaking, the "old" technology has basically been unchanged for hundreds of years. How different could the new stoves be?

The entire concept of "burning smoke" blows some people's minds... it did mine... as does the concept of reading a manual to get advice on how to operate something as "intuitive" as a box that holds fire. Much about EPA stoves is counter-intuitive, as "less air equals more heat" in allowing secondaries to kick in and do their thing.
 
Dunno how long each article is to be, or how many there will be in the series, but I would make the first article nothing but a table of contents and preview of the subjects to be covered in the series. Eg: your initial suggestion of clearance to combustibles is a big subject to tackle as part of a single article also talking about the seasoning of wood.

I would take some time to make up a list of all the subject areas to be discussed, and just make that the first article. Try to keep each subsequent article short, and focused on a single aspect of the art.

"We will be presenting a series of articles over the coming weeks, discussing all aspects of woodburning, from dedicated heating using wood stoves and boilers, to occasional open hearth fires for ambiance. Our focus will be the safe and proper installation, operation, and maintenance of these appliances..."

Articles could span from boiler and storage basics, to wood collection and seasoning, to fire screens for open fireplaces.
 
Just a few that I can think of...

  • Properly seasoned wood
  • Learning how to burn with an EPA stove - theory and operation.
  • Proper maintenance including chimney sweep / inspections

Honestly, you could find yourself (or wife) writing a book with all of the variables involved. It will be difficult to boil it down to a few topics that can be covered within a newspaper article.

Good luck!
 
Since you are writing a series of articles, you should have the time to go into details on the different points, and as the saying goes, the devil's in the details".
I'll give you a couple examples.
First; on the issue of careful care and handling the of ashes from the stove, we always use a metal bucket, but on one occasion my wife emptied cleaned the ashes out of the stove and into the bucket, but thinking that they were just extinguished ashes left them in the bucket behind the stove. I came home and the first thing I noticed was a smell of smoke in the air. I asked her if she had left the stove door open, but she denied that she had. After much "conversation" I noticed the full bucket of ashes behind the stove, and when I touched it it was hot enough to burn my fingers, I quickly realized where the smoke smell was coming from.
Now another twist on the same topic. As I said, we always use a metal bucket to remove our ashes, on this occasion I emptied the ashes into the bucket and put it outside the back door on to a cement surface, but not far from a fabric rug we had beside the door. Just by coincidence I went outside that night and saw to my terror that it was windy out and the wind had blown away the ashes of the surface of the bucket and reignited some of the active coals, and sparks were blowing out of the bucket onto the fabric rug next to the door. So as Weatherguy suggested, it's good to put the metal container into another metal container, or at least make sure the pail has a lid and can't blow over.
Second point is the subject of dry wood. It's easy to say make sure you only burn dry wood, but the truth is the average person has no idea what that is. Many here will say simply that it is wood that has been cut and split and stacked for 2-3 years, but the fact is almost no new wood burner is going to have cut and stacked wood that just happens to be sitting in their back yard for 2-3 years. Nor are they likely to find anybody selling it. So that leaves it up to the new wood burner to figure out what he is gona do for wood for the first 2-3 years. Thus comes the tricky part. My suggestion is to buy themselves a moisture meter and learn how to use it. Thus will at least give them an accurate tool to gauge what properly seasoned wood really is. The nonsense about banging pieces of wood together or looking to see if there are cracks in the wood or dark coloring on the outside of the wood just isn't accurate, and gives no precise moisture contents reading like a moisture meter does. It's true that a moisture meter can be out by a few points, but banging wood together or cracks in the wood can be out by tens of percentage points or more, depending on the experience level of the person. Remember we are talking about new wood burners here, not people who have been burning for 20 or 30 years. Less then 20% moisture content is what they should be striving for, and the only way to tell that with any degree of accuracy is with a moisture meter, not cracks in the wood, not dark staining, and not by banging wood together.

Actually the last statement is not totally accurate. There are other ways of telling the moisture content of wood more accurately than a moisture meter. One way is to cut the wood into little squares, precisely weight it on an little scale, cook it in a microwave on low heat until all the moisture has evaporated, then weight it again and calculate the weight missing and then do a little math and you'll be able to figure out what the moisture content was. But moisture meters are a lot cheaper than those little digital scales, and moisture meters are a lot simpler to use. ;)
 
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1. Take the time and money to install per manufacturer's specifications . . . and don't just rely on Uncle Phil for advice just because he's been using a woodstove since he was 10 years old. Paying close attention to the requirements for the hearth, clearances and being sure the appropriate flue and its adapaters are used are important (i.e. do not think putting single wall stove pipe through a cut out sheet of OSB stuck in a window is safe). Be sure to screw the stove pipe together . . . one experience with a back puff will make you happy that you took the five minutes to do so.

2. Pay attention to clearances . . . this goes back to the 1st item . . . but folks need to remember that this also means not sticking stuff too close to the woodstove that can catch on fire . . . such as that nice stack of firewood, cardboard box full of newspapers and kindling, etc.

3. Cleanliness is next to Godliness . . . or at least it is the next best thing to smoke detectors. Keep an eye on the chimney and inspect it frequently. Sweep it when needed.

4. Speaking of smoke detectors . . . make sure you have them and they work. If they're over 10 years old it's time to replace them. It's nice to have combination ionization/photo-electric smoke detectors or a few of each type in a home for the best protection. Carbon monoxide detectors are also good to have on hand . . . same goes for a fire extinguisher or two. Just remember though . . . if the detectors are going off in middle of the night the family should all know how to get out and where to meet outside . . . the time to practice a fire escape plan is not at 2 a.m. in middle of January.

5. Get some thermometers. Sure you don't really need them . . . then again you don't really need a speedometer or gas gauge in your car either. However, having thermometers on your stove and stove pipe (much like a speedometer and gas gauge) will help you learn how to operate the stove safely and more efficiently.

6. Dry wood is good wood . . . quite a bit has been said on this . . . all true. Folks who go from wood that is unseasoned or semi-seasoned to wood that has been cut, split and stacked for over a year or so typically have an epiphany when they realize what properly seasoned wood can do in their woodstove.

7. Dispose of your ashes properly. This is perhaps one of the biggest cause of fires that we tend to see . . . folks who toss what they think are their dead coals and ash into plastic buckets, bags, cardboard boxes, etc. and then stick it on the porch, deck, garage, etc. Treat all ash as if there is a live coal in the pile. Place outside into a covered metal pail and be sure it is not on or near any combustibles before disposing.

8. Take the time to learn the stove. Running new EPA stoves is not like running an old stove. I don't know how many times I have seen folks here come on to say they hate their new stove and it isn't pumping out the heat . . . only to find that they did not read the manual and learn how to operate their stove. Perhaps one of the most common errors is folks that equate more air with more flames and more heat . . . when the opposite tends to be true . . . once hot enough . . . generally less air equals more heat.

9. Finally, respect the stove, but don't fear it.

It has been mentioned earlier in this post but again, a direct link to this thread on this forum would be killer!
 
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