Can Garn Jr fit here?

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The image shows a space beside my attached two car garage. To where it drops off to the driveway below, it is just over 10' wide. The whole area is about 10x20'. The concrete path is cracked and I think I would have to do a repour wider and deeper anyway to support a garn jr. My plan would be to build a lean-to type of structure off of the garage to house the boiler. Could I then pipe the lines into my garage, along the ceiling to the house and down into the basement? It is block wall between the house and garage as well as the external garage wall so I don't think that would be a problem.

I know the unit weighs over 8000lbs full so any idea how deep a concrete pour I would have to do here? I would imagine rebar would be in order as well.

If the room and boiler were well insulated, would I need to heat the room or would the boiler provide enough ambient heat? It gets quite cold here in winter. Not like North Dakota cold but at least Buffalo, NY cold or a bit worse.
 

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its a great location and idea, do you plan to adhere to bldg codes, with reference to frost? I would first check the existing bldg to see if there are footings or haunches or just a slab. Where do you plan to store your wood, 10ft isnt wide enough and 20 ft with working room behind the garn and the distance to combustibles from the loading door might leave room for 2 pallets side by side. If you went 16ft wide you could stack along the 20ft outside wall 4ftwide/ 8ft tall =5full cord. If your wood is in the garage next door 10/20 will work.
 
TCaldwell said:
its a great location and idea, do you plan to adhere to bldg codes, with reference to frost? I would first check the existing bldg to see if there are footings or haunches or just a slab. Where do you plan to store your wood, 10ft isnt wide enough and 20 ft with working room behind the garn and the distance to combustibles from the loading door might leave room for 2 pallets side by side. If you went 16ft wide you could stack along the 20ft outside wall 4ftwide/ 8ft tall =5full cord. If your wood is in the garage next door 10/20 will work.
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Not 100% on footings. I think it could be just a slab. We bought the property a year ago and it is 40 years old. The garage floor and concrete pour outside have cracked up pretty fierce. That being said, there could still be decent footings since the garage walls them self seem perfectly square and I don't see much evidence of wall cracks.

If it fits and supports the garn that is my main concern. (still not made 100% decision on garn or another model but gathering info). I have a wood shed that holds 4-5 cord about 50' away and the barn you see in the back currently has no plans for livestock so loads of storage there. I've actually also considered storing in the barn but that requires a lot more piping/trenching and I am on a lot of bedrock here

I have a small tractor so have no problem driving up a few buckets full of wood once a week and storing only that much worth inside. Going wider than 10ft is pretty much out of the question.
 
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Probably could do a monolithic slab, at least we can here in Michigan. Not sure about the width for a Jr., fit might be tight if the 10' includes walls, but a regular gasser with a 500 gallon tank horizontally placed against the inside wall would fit well in that space. Depending on if you put tank in rear or front of the area, you could box it, and use the space in front of, and on top of, for wood storage. Is there a way that you could keep the lines to the house lower in the garage instead of over the top? Quite alot of extra head in that 10-12 foot height difference, especially with an open system! Not a deal breaker though.
 
funbus said:
The image shows a space beside my attached two car garage. To where it drops off to the driveway below, it is just over 10' wide. The whole area is about 10x20'. The concrete path is cracked and I think I would have to do a repour wider and deeper anyway to support a garn jr. My plan would be to build a lean-to type of structure off of the garage to house the boiler. Could I then pipe the lines into my garage, along the ceiling to the house and down into the basement? It is block wall between the house and garage as well as the external garage wall so I don't think that would be a problem.

I know the unit weighs over 8000lbs full so any idea how deep a concrete pour I would have to do here? I would imagine rebar would be in order as well.

If the room and boiler were well insulated, would I need to heat the room or would the boiler provide enough ambient heat? It gets quite cold here in winter. Not like North Dakota cold but at least Buffalo, NY cold or a bit worse.
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If the boiler room were well insulated you'd have no problem with freezing in there. We have wrapped up Garns running in uninsulated steel buildings with no issues at all.

Check your e-mail.
 
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Probably could do a monolithic slab, at least we can here in Michigan. Not sure about the width for a Jr., fit might be tight if the 10' includes walls, but a regular gasser with a 500 gallon tank horizontally placed against the inside wall would fit well in that space. Depending on if you put tank in rear or front of the area, you could box it, and use the space in front of, and on top of, for wood storage. Is there a way that you could keep the lines to the house lower in the garage instead of over the top? Quite alot of extra head in that 10-12 foot height difference, especially with an open system! Not a deal breaker though.
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Well we park in there and it is a concrete poured floor so without repouring the floor I don't think so.
 
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