good long burning stove

vasten · Nov 28, 2007

I think I have gotten bit by the wood burning bug, and am already looking to upgrade my stove for next season. I currently have the regency FS1100, and am heating a 1200 sq ft old farm house in upstate NY. The temps here in the winter can drop to 25 below zero for weeks on end. The goal for me is to have the stove do most of the work and the oil furnace to the minimal amount of work. I am considering either a larger wood stove or keeping the current stove and adding a wood furnace.

I like the idea of a stove for the focal point of the house and the ambiance etc VS. an appliance in the basement that adds no aesthetics to the house.

I am thinking of updating to the regency S2400, I like the look of the step top model. I can't see going to the largest in this line as it is a large price jump for the minimual gain.

I am also thinking of something from Harman not sure on model there. I know that there is also a vermont casting dealer in the area as well.

I know I wan't an ash pan, and a realistic 8-12 hour burn time.

Any money that stays in my pocket and not in opec's is a plus to me.

babalu87 · Nov 28, 2007

Take a look at a Morso 3610 too. Has two big ash pans and I get honest 8+ hour burns on full loads of hardwood.

Can you add any insulation? Even a blanket of fiberglass in that attic will be a huge help.

vasten · Nov 28, 2007

Oh yeah i am thinking of actually insulating the basement, floor joists to keep the cold from coming up. The attica and walls are blown in and seem sketchy at best.

begreen · Nov 28, 2007

I agree, a 3 cu ft stove would be overkill. In the mid-size also look at the PE Spectrum (or Classic), Quad 3100, Harman Exception, Jotul Oslo.

Rob From Wisconsin · Nov 28, 2007

Seems to me you would want a large "cat" stove.
Check into Blaze King, Buck Stove or Vermont Castings
for models that would best fit you. If you don't like "cat"
stoves, check into the Pacific Energy Summit model, for
long, self-regulating burns.

Hope this helps...

Rob

Highbeam · Nov 28, 2007

The PE Spectrum is a long burning non-cat that is going to be hard to beat. I like the looks of the Spectrum classic too.

The challenge is going to be getting a stove that offers a long burn without being such a big stove that it cooks you out of the house. This is where the cat stoves seem to shine since they can be cranked down for low output while still holding a ton of fuel.

titan · Nov 29, 2007

If you're happy with the 1100 but want longer burn times,I'd stay the course and go with that 2400.Regency's build quality is on par with all the comparable stoves I've seen and I get a good 8+hour burn with mine.Good warranty coverage as well,though you'll likely never need it.

vasten · Nov 29, 2007

Funny I am comparing the stoves listed and I am finding that the BTU output is equal to or less than what I have now so I am confused.

Bigger stove = more wood= more heat output right? The fs1100 is rated for 55K btu and a 4 hour burn time. I was looking to go up in BTU's and increased burn times.

synthnut · Nov 29, 2007

You can almost FORGET the btu ratings that the manufacturers give ...There are stoves that work on the same principle, are the same size, and even look very much the same, yet each manufacturer will have different btu ratings ....Look at the size of the stove you have now, and look for something bigger ....A bigger stove gives you longer burns, but some of the cat. stoves also give you a longer burn with a smaller size .... Use the forum as a tool to help you decide ...There is a LOT of great info here from real life experiences ...Jim

babalu87 · Nov 29, 2007

Firebox size
That is the key to how long a stove will burn and how many BTU's it will put out.
BTU ratings are like mileage ratings on cars and trucks, your results WILL vary

Roughly
For every foot of firebox you can heat 1000 sq ft of space.
Less if the insulation is sketchy, more if the insulation is good.

And old farm house = drafty, sketchy wall insulation etc.
Insulation the attic and floor will help tremendously but you probably need to lean more towards a cubic foot of firebox for every 600-700 feet of space.

vasten · Nov 29, 2007

well let me ask this does anyone in NY have a FS2400 that they are looking to sell in the Spring? Best way to find out what you want is to try a few of them out. So I am thinking buy a used stove and see how I like it. Opposed to dropping 1800-2400, new only to discover there are features on it I dont like.

eernest4 · Nov 29, 2007

hi vasten,

I been looking 4 a new stove too. Here is what I have found so far.

englander 30ncl,epa secondary burn, 2,200 sq ft, 3.5 cu ft firebox around $800.00
8 hr overnight burn, rated 75,000 btu/hr

drolet ht 2000, rated 2000-2700 sq ft ,90,000 btu/hr 2.8 cu ft firebox, epa secondary burn
1000.00 & ship from www.northertools.com 8 hr overnight burn. comes crated, you assemble,firebricks,baffling & secondary air pipes.

osburn 2400 high efficiency- 3.2 cuft firebox, rated 2700 sq ft,99,000 btu/hr,epa secondary burn, 8 hr overnite about $1700.oo, comes crated , you assemble, firebricks , baffling & secondary air pipes.

pacific summit, 97,000 btu ,3000 sq ft, 3 cuft firebox, epa second burn, 8 hr overnite burn
around $2,500.00

hearthstone equinox, 120,000 btu/hr epa second burn,4 cu ft firebox, a soapstone stove that takes a long time to heat up and even longer to cool down, 78 % efficiency,holds 80 lbs
of wood, 25 inch long logs,774 lbs, about $3,600.00 & ship
very beautiful & classy looking stove.looks like you paid 3600.oo for it. heats 3,500 sq ft.

hope this helps.

titan · Nov 29, 2007

vasten,fwiw.....the 1100 is rated @ 55000 btu's;the 2400 @ 75000.20000 btu's is a fair bit of heat,and your burn time should double as well.

vasten · Nov 30, 2007

the numbers on stoves are all over the board, from BTU's to prices. Guess it comes down to what you like and what works best for you.

Looks wise I like the step top models, so the regency may have it, unless I can find a comparable stove in another line that looks similar.

begreen · Nov 30, 2007

Go by stove firebox capacity first. Manufacturer's BTUs specs vary from conservative to exagerated.

No problem with picking the Regency. If you want a comparative line of step tops with more size selection, Quadrafire makes several of them. The 3100 is a nice clean burning unit in the 2 cu ft range.

MarkG · Jan 23, 2008

Nobody mentioned the thought about integrating the stove into the design of the main part of the home. For this reason I just went with a quad 3100. The corner clearances from the wall is only 7"! It looks great (clean simple design, large window), burns great and what more can I say? When the temp gets up, the reburners really work amazingly well. And I got the cool 20 min shutdown timer feature to shut down the start up air.

But I am not an expert so take all this with a grain of salt, I couldnt be happier, but then again I am not going for long burn times as long as I can relight it easily each morning which I do (has not been cold since it was installed 6 weeks ago). By the way I used a piece of granite for the hearth, with fireboard underneath, it looks awesome. Nothing quite like standing on a smooth piece of warm granite in bare feet after being out in the snow. Check out attached image.

Good luck.

Mark

johnnywarm · Jan 22, 2009

eernest4 said:
hi vasten,

I been looking 4 a new stove too. Here is what I have found so far.

englander 30ncl,epa secondary burn, 2,200 sq ft, 3.5 cu ft firebox around $800.00
8 hr overnight burn, rated 75,000 btu/hr

drolet ht 2000, rated 2000-2700 sq ft ,90,000 btu/hr 2.8 cu ft firebox, epa secondary burn
1000.00 & ship from www.northertools.com 8 hr overnight burn. comes crated, you assemble,firebricks,baffling & secondary air pipes.

osburn 2400 high efficiency- 3.2 cuft firebox, rated 2700 sq ft,99,000 btu/hr,epa secondary burn, 8 hr overnite about $1700.oo, comes crated , you assemble, firebricks , baffling & secondary air pipes.

pacific summit, 97,000 btu ,3000 sq ft, 3 cuft firebox, epa second burn, 8 hr overnite burn
around $2,500.00

hearthstone equinox, 120,000 btu/hr epa second burn,4 cu ft firebox, a soapstone stove that takes a long time to heat up and even longer to cool down, 78 % efficiency,holds 80 lbs
of wood, 25 inch long logs,774 lbs, about $3,600.00 & ship
very beautiful & classy looking stove.looks like you paid 3600.oo for it. heats 3,500 sq ft.

hope this helps.

Did you get a new stove eernest4??

vasten · Mar 4, 2009

I ended up staying with the same stove for this season. But I did change the source of wood. I ordered a log load in the spring and had it cut and split before may so it had several months to season. I noticed a big difference this season. Based on that I have a better understanding now of what I need and I think that a stove one step up from where I am with really well seasoned wood would do the trick.

johnnywarm · Mar 4, 2009

vasten said:
I ended up staying with the same stove for this season. But I did change the source of wood. I ordered a log load in the spring and had it cut and split before may so it had several months to season. I noticed a big difference this season. Based on that I have a better understanding now of what I need and I think that a stove one step up from where I am with really well seasoned wood would do the trick.

COOL

vasten · Apr 7, 2009

Johhnywarm,
Let me know what you end up going with, from the englander 800.00 to the summit @ $2500.00 is a big jump. I did hear someone say that they were not happy with the pacific summit product, for the price. But there are alot of variables in rating the stove by user too.

The one i am looking at is the regency S2400 model. It is the next step up from what I have currently, and can be placed as close to 4.5" from combustable materials. It has a 2.3 cu ft fire box, and has a pedastal base with a godo sized ash pan.

My only problem is I dont care for the dealer in my area, I bought my pellet stove from him and you get that feeling of dealing with a used car salesman. It was not a good experiance in any stretch of the imagination.

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