ansehnlich1
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I'm humane, if I catch 'em and they're still alive I kill 'em as quick as possible.........old farm boy here not interested in humane treatment of the rodent mouse.
mice in wood pile
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Old Farm Boy,
I would say killing a couple more and you should be on your way to succefully eliminating all the rodents from your property,(excuse me FARM). rather simple thinking. Soundsl like your not interested in controling the VARMINTS but you just like to kill things.
I would say killing a couple more and you should be on your way to succefully eliminating all the rodents from your property,(excuse me FARM). rather simple thinking. Soundsl like your not interested in controling the VARMINTS but you just like to kill things.
Old Farm Boy,
I would say killing a couple more and you should be on your way to succefully eliminating all the rodents from your property,(excuse me FARM). rather simple thinking. Soundsl like your not interested in controling the VARMINTS but you just like to kill things. Does this make you feel MANLY? I am sure it does,(Lets see two ounce mouse verses 200 pound plowboy,Yep, I recond that would make you feel MANLY. Now you could go kill the barn cat that didn't kill the mouse that you had to MANLY EXTERMINATE).
Congradulations, you can hang the mouse head on your living room wall, that unless of course your the guy that eliminates the mice with a shot gun!
Load up the 12 gauge JED here comes another one of them their critters
I too own a farm, but I let the barn cats take care of the mice, and they do it so well!
What simple logic!
I would say killing a couple more and you should be on your way to succefully eliminating all the rodents from your property,(excuse me FARM). rather simple thinking. Soundsl like your not interested in controling the VARMINTS but you just like to kill things. Does this make you feel MANLY? I am sure it does,(Lets see two ounce mouse verses 200 pound plowboy,Yep, I recond that would make you feel MANLY. Now you could go kill the barn cat that didn't kill the mouse that you had to MANLY EXTERMINATE).
Congradulations, you can hang the mouse head on your living room wall, that unless of course your the guy that eliminates the mice with a shot gun!
Load up the 12 gauge JED here comes another one of them their critters
I too own a farm, but I let the barn cats take care of the mice, and they do it so well!
What simple logic!
kalevi said:
Once a mouse trail or path is established, the mice will continue to costantly use it to gain entry back into your house.
That is why it is so important to find and block all entry ways and points of access.
John
ansehnlich1
Retired Hearth.com Member
Ya, I sensed if I were to post my viewpoint here the thought police would show up......and to boot show their ignorance, hate, and disdain for those who do not fit their simplistic mold.
Free speech for everybody as long as you think the way I do!
Great!!
Couldn't care less what you do with your mice, I kill 'em
Free speech for everybody as long as you think the way I do!
Great!!
Couldn't care less what you do with your mice, I kill 'em
ansehnlich1 said:Ya, I sensed if I were to post my viewpoint here the thought police would show up......and to boot show their ignorance, hate, and disdain for those who do not fit their simplistic mold.
Free speech for everybody as long as you think the way I do!
Great!!
Couldn't care less what you do with your mice, I kill 'em
As I stated, simple thinking and logic from what appears to not an ignorant individual, but rather a very simple minded one.
You are entitled to your opinions and I am entitled to mine. Their is no hate,ignorance, or disdain involved here, just very simple thinking on your part.
Load up the 12 gauge MABEL, we got some mousin to do!
Mice beware!!
i dont have any problem using the ol'shotgun for mousing control..i'd use anything i can get me hands on ,id use a rpg ..mice are rodents , not pets
hounddog said:
Hound Dog,
Next time you blow a rodent away with your "ShotGun", please forward me a photo, especially if it is done on the porch of your house.
I think this is histhrocal!!
Now I finaly see why people & politicians are in favor of gun control. Heck, you don't even need a hunting license, not that certain people,(I won't mention names/Vern), would have one anyway. Even if needed.
Gotta Go, I have to take my Begle outback and blow him away with the ol 12 gauge, he just don't chase them there rabbits like he use ta!
backpack09
Minister of Fire
Fire Bug said:
Hypocrite!... You say treat them humanly... have you seen what a cat does to a mouse? They die much humanierly by the gun or the trap.
Unless you have special barn cats that practice catch and release... Puhleez.
Or you should be treating them cats and mices humanely and let them live in your house with plenty of food water and heat. while your at it, let the horses and cows in too, I am sure they would love to cuddle up next to the warm stove
Get off your high horse and stop this BS argument.
ansehnlich1
Retired Hearth.com Member
Sheesh, all I did was say I kill mice and next thing ya know, I'm accused of loving to kill, snide comments demeaning to farm life are thrown about, derogatory remarks are made regarding things of the country, accusations of being simple minded are posted, gun control is advocated, killing dogs expounded upon, the name Mabel is made fun of, and to top it off I am to be persuaded there is no evidence of ignorance, hate, or disdain in any of these posts.......
whatever dude!
Ash Can anyone???
whatever dude!
Ash Can anyone???
Henz
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Let me ask you something Fire bug, are you an anti-hunter? A person who supports any anti-hunting group?
Can't walk - might step on an ant.
Can't farm for vegans - might kill a worm.
It's rough being on the bottom of the food chain.
We're still dumb enough to kill each other over stupid crap, a mouse is the end of the world ?
I'm all for compassion as much as the next guy, but we're supposed to be avoiding Darwin awards and extinction.
Can't farm for vegans - might kill a worm.
It's rough being on the bottom of the food chain.
We're still dumb enough to kill each other over stupid crap, a mouse is the end of the world ?
I'm all for compassion as much as the next guy, but we're supposed to be avoiding Darwin awards and extinction.
If the shoe fits on all counts. Anyone have a tissue or two? I didn't mean for this post to be a tear jerker!
You voiced your opinion,(of which your entitled), and voiced mine.
As I stated, I myself am a "FarmBoy",(Plow-Boy if you like), and my Grandmothers name is indeed Maybil.
As far as Dog killing goes, it has been done by several so called sportsmen or hunters,(self titled), when their Beagles would not work for them,(fact not fiction).
Once again, the next mouse you blast on your front porch in the wood pile, please forward the pictures. I could only assume that you have one drafty house from all these shotgun blasts.
You voiced your opinion,(of which your entitled), and voiced mine.
As I stated, I myself am a "FarmBoy",(Plow-Boy if you like), and my Grandmothers name is indeed Maybil.
As far as Dog killing goes, it has been done by several so called sportsmen or hunters,(self titled), when their Beagles would not work for them,(fact not fiction).
Once again, the next mouse you blast on your front porch in the wood pile, please forward the pictures. I could only assume that you have one drafty house from all these shotgun blasts.
Adirondackwoodburner said:
No, as a matter of fact I am a avid hunter and have been doing it all my life, I also belong to the NRA.
Once again, their is nothing wrong with hunting if it is done in the correct manner, but unfortunately, there are those self proclaimed sportsman/hunters that give the sport a bad reputation. There are those who are not in it for the hunt but for the sake of just killing something, that is why in that in the state of Pa. soo many venteran hunters are giving up the sport. That Pa. State Game Commisions Greed.
By the way, short of using your shot gun, how else do you kill these rodents? Possibly by stomping on them, Ive heard and seen that done before.
Seems like you took a great deal of pride stating that you kill them with a shot gun. Do you take pride in killing things?
billb3 said:
Hit it on the head exactly Bill! "We're still dumb enough to kill each other over stupid Crap." Killing a mouse is not the end of the world, but bragging about it, time to go see Mr Shrink, whats next!
johnsopi
Minister of Fire
HumaneSocietySteve
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Boy...Boy...Boy...Miss a thread for a day and you come back to check out how the discussion is going and get and ear full...or should I say eye full. Oh well. Since I started the whole be humane to mice and let nature have her balance thing I guess I should weigh in on recent thread posts.
First of all it is a proven fact that cruelty to animals often leads to cruelty to people. Usually it is the form of spousal or child abuse and in several cases the correlation has been made to murders and serial killers. In my experience people that are cruel to animals are cowards. When confronted about their abuse they are not belligerent they try to weasel their way out of what they have done.
Today I investigated a cruelty case where someone had let a horse starve to death in a 80 x 80 lot with no grass, hay and the water was frozen. His negligence was obvious to any sane person but he could not see that the horse was dead due to his neglect..."It died of natural causes" according to him. I guess his ribs showing and his hip points sticking up were natural for a healthy horse. To him the horse was of no consequence. No tears were shed, he had no remorse, after all as he said..."It's only an animal". The other horse in the same paddock is now my main concern so I asked him what he would take for it? His response....Ill take $200 for him as long as he goes to a good home. I know what the definition of a "good home" is to him so I will make sure he goes to a great home. (Don't worry the Humane Society is putting up the money for his purchase and he is going to a foster home Saturday where he will receive the best care then we can prosecute for animal cruelty)
But you might ask, does cruelty to animals extend to mice. After all it's just a rodent why should we care? In my opinion cruelty to animals extends to All animals big or small. I am not against responsible hunting. It is the natural way of things. Predator...Prey. Since we humans have killed off all the pinnacle predators in most of the country, due to habitat loss and irresponsible hunting practices of the past, man has to fill that role. Responsible hunting is the reason we still have many species due to the conservation and management paid for by law abiding hunters when they buy hunting and fishing licenses.
I try to live my life by not negatively impacting life or the environment as much as I can. ALL life is precious and to be respected. As a Christian I believe we are stewards of the earth God gave us. To be a good steward we should do all we can to leave things better than we found them. When I find a spider in the house I catch it and take it outdoors. Why kill it when with a little effort it can live and fulfill it's purpose. This philosophy should be a part of everyone's life. It has nothing to do with religion, politics or whether you were raised on a farm or in a city. It's just the right way to do things.
Stomping mice is no different than swerving to the other side of the road to hit a Possum or Raccoon. Yes people do this. I would argue that stomping mice is doing more harm to the person doing the stomping than the mice. For a person to do this without conscience is truly sad.
Animals sometimes become a nuisance and need to be controlled in some way. That WAY should be humane and as kind as possible. Whether you believe in karma or that you reap what you sow the principal is the same. Live this life responsibly, treat people with kindness, treat the earth with respect and see all living things as precious. If we would all follow this simple way of living we could achieve a great world to leave to the next generation.
First of all it is a proven fact that cruelty to animals often leads to cruelty to people. Usually it is the form of spousal or child abuse and in several cases the correlation has been made to murders and serial killers. In my experience people that are cruel to animals are cowards. When confronted about their abuse they are not belligerent they try to weasel their way out of what they have done.
Today I investigated a cruelty case where someone had let a horse starve to death in a 80 x 80 lot with no grass, hay and the water was frozen. His negligence was obvious to any sane person but he could not see that the horse was dead due to his neglect..."It died of natural causes" according to him. I guess his ribs showing and his hip points sticking up were natural for a healthy horse. To him the horse was of no consequence. No tears were shed, he had no remorse, after all as he said..."It's only an animal". The other horse in the same paddock is now my main concern so I asked him what he would take for it? His response....Ill take $200 for him as long as he goes to a good home. I know what the definition of a "good home" is to him so I will make sure he goes to a great home. (Don't worry the Humane Society is putting up the money for his purchase and he is going to a foster home Saturday where he will receive the best care then we can prosecute for animal cruelty)
But you might ask, does cruelty to animals extend to mice. After all it's just a rodent why should we care? In my opinion cruelty to animals extends to All animals big or small. I am not against responsible hunting. It is the natural way of things. Predator...Prey. Since we humans have killed off all the pinnacle predators in most of the country, due to habitat loss and irresponsible hunting practices of the past, man has to fill that role. Responsible hunting is the reason we still have many species due to the conservation and management paid for by law abiding hunters when they buy hunting and fishing licenses.
I try to live my life by not negatively impacting life or the environment as much as I can. ALL life is precious and to be respected. As a Christian I believe we are stewards of the earth God gave us. To be a good steward we should do all we can to leave things better than we found them. When I find a spider in the house I catch it and take it outdoors. Why kill it when with a little effort it can live and fulfill it's purpose. This philosophy should be a part of everyone's life. It has nothing to do with religion, politics or whether you were raised on a farm or in a city. It's just the right way to do things.
Stomping mice is no different than swerving to the other side of the road to hit a Possum or Raccoon. Yes people do this. I would argue that stomping mice is doing more harm to the person doing the stomping than the mice. For a person to do this without conscience is truly sad.
Animals sometimes become a nuisance and need to be controlled in some way. That WAY should be humane and as kind as possible. Whether you believe in karma or that you reap what you sow the principal is the same. Live this life responsibly, treat people with kindness, treat the earth with respect and see all living things as precious. If we would all follow this simple way of living we could achieve a great world to leave to the next generation.
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