http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=afYEN_OriWrU&refer=us
from March 10,,Dont recall hearing of it before today.
Well,,that didn`t work! Sorry
from March 10,,Dont recall hearing of it before today.
Well,,that didn`t work! Sorry
ml said:http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=afYEN_OriWrU&refer=us
from March 10,,Dont recall hearing of it before today.
Well,,that didn`t work! Sorry
mbcijim said:On the other hand, taking the wind power from the United States Great Plains to it's coast will take many new lines in environmentally sensitive areas.
DBoon said:It is far more economical to generate power where it is needed and distribute it over a more local transmission grid. Even in locations where real estate costs are high (e.g. New York City metropolitan area), it is still more economical to generate locally. Transmitting power over long distances is not economically viable unless the power is extremely low cost to begin with (i.e. 2-3 cent/kWh hydropower) and even then, there are distance limits before it becomes uneconomical.
Badfish740 said:I attended the listening session that Interior Secretary Salazar hosted in Atlantic City at the beginning of April on offshore drilling vs. offshore wind development along the eastern seaboard. The presentation from the Minerals Management Service (MMS) had some excellent and frankly surprising data. .
xpertpc said:Badfish740, that sounds like a good seminar, what did you learn to pass on to us regular humans ... or is that just reserved for the goretax people?
DBoon said:So who are the real culprits in the NY City metropolitan area? Why, that would be the wealthy suburbs and sprawling exurbs north of NY City who want to consume lots of power and have no power plants near them at all. Why is the Indian Point nuclear generating station north of NY City have such a controversy right now? Not because it leaked a little mildly reactive cooling water, not because people are truly worried that a terrorist attack on it will kill them all, but because the NIMBYs in Westchester County NY want to shut it down and import all their power (quick quiz - how likely is it that you can replace 2000 MW of generating capacity with 5 new 400 MW gas-fired power plants in Westchester County? Not very likely at all). This one plant is 1/3 of Westchester's generating capacity. The situation with Orange County and Putnam County NY is not too terribly different, except that they have no generating plants to shut down to begin with.
Badfish740 said:xpertpc said:Badfish740, that sounds like a good seminar, what did you learn to pass on to us regular humans ... or is that just reserved for the goretax people?
It was-but I'm guessing you're not actually interested since you're mocking me.
i work for a power company as a line man. i know of certain areas where the can run lighting using a transformer run by induced voltage, your coil would have to be huge to run stuff in your house, and how would you regulate it as there is fluctuating voltage on high line depending on peak loads. very interesting id like to see it work. ive measured stray voltage/induced voltage on house services up to 60 volts but once any load is applied it dissipates instantly.jebatty said:I made a big coil and placed it under our transmission lines, forgot to put in a step-down transformer and a flux capacitor, and now blew out all the lines in my house. At least I know now how to get free power. LOL.
Did you mean that Westchester uses 6000MW? And they get 1/3 of it from nuclear?
No one likes to plead ignorant (except possibly me)..I started this thread, as it came to me in a weekly newsletter,,and thought it was time to get my head out of the sand, and learn something..I appreciate the input however I am still confused as to what the new legislation addresses. Is it addressing the connection to long distance transportation, which seems not to be worthwhile,,or will it aid in local development??Sorry,,jut trying to better understand.
DBoon said:Again, if you put the generation where it was needed - whether it was renewable of fossil fuel generation - you will have the total lowest cost to the consumer.
Or be concerned with health risks which might possibly associated with it.mbcijim said:The public would rather pay more money and not have to look at it.
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