LLigetfa
Minister of Fire
Given how short the handle is and how straight it is, I would not buy one and would not use one if it were given to me.Bigg_Redd said:
The Wonderful Fiskars
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quads
Minister of Fire
I'm guessing you've never milked cows for a living?Pagey said:I guess I just find it amusing that people aren't willing to spend $45 to try out something they would very likely end up using (and from the looks of the reviews could easily sell if they didn't). Hell, I spent $45 on a bottle of Stoli 2 weeks ago. And arguably I'll get little real "use" from it. I'm tighter than Dick's hat band, but I'd still drop a whopping $45 to try something I could very well end up using repeatedly. But to each his own level of tightness!
quads
Minister of Fire
YES I own a Fiskars, but I thought it was just a little short light ax. Hmm. It doesn't actually say on it that it's the Super Pro Splitting Maul Ax, but you could be right! Maybe I already own one. If that's what one of those is, it's for sale. Cheap!Bigg_Redd said:
quads said:I'm guessing you've never milked cows for a living?Pagey said:I guess I just find it amusing that people aren't willing to spend $45 to try out something they would very likely end up using (and from the looks of the reviews could easily sell if they didn't). Hell, I spent $45 on a bottle of Stoli 2 weeks ago. And arguably I'll get little real "use" from it. I'm tighter than Dick's hat band, but I'd still drop a whopping $45 to try something I could very well end up using repeatedly. But to each his own level of tightness!
No, but I've done the next poorest thing: worked in a community bank. :long:
myzamboni
Minister of Fire
LLigetfa said:
I prefer fiscally responsible. The fiskars was cheaper than renting a splitter for the day.
quads
Minister of Fire
I agree with you completely! My free and/or already paid for itself decades ago maul is cheaper than spending $45 on something that does what the maul already does.....Unless the new thing does it so much better, like the constant testimonials at the mere mention of a maul would have me believe, but at the same time make me suspicious. With what my salary for milking cows is, I am very careful which way I throw every $45.myzamboni said:
quads said:
Well said and fair enough. The man has adequately explained his reasons for not spending the $45, and you can't ask for more than that. With that said, I'll eventually part with enough cash to pick up one of these and compare it to my 6# maul.
Here is a little experiment that anyone can do that might (but probably won’t) put the issue of handle length to rest. Grab a yard stick and hold it with your back hand at the very end and take a swing as if you were splitting wood with it. I’m guessing that regardless of your height (unless you’re approaching the 7’ mark) you will hit the floor/ground before it gets anywhere near your feet or legs. Now, choke up on the yard stick so that you can see the 28” mark behind you back hand. Take another swing and I suspect that if you are over about 5’-6” tall the end of the yard stick will or could hit your feet or shins. Operator error can happen to anyone. I would prefer the added insurance that the 36” handle provides. Therefore the operator’s height is a factor because the taller you are the further it is from your hands to the ground.
I’m 6’-4” and I can’t bend my knees or back in any comfortable manner (that I would want to repeat thousands of times) that would allow me to always hit the ground during any operator error episodes that might occur with a 28” handle. That said I would still like to try one of those miraculous Fiskars axes because I can’t imagine how it works that much better than the True Temper Super Splitter (Model: 1190700) since they both employ the same principals of physics. Someone in a previous thread said that they owned both the Fiskars and the True Temper and that the Fiskars was far superior. However I don’t recall that there were any specific reasons for this. Chock another one up for the supernatural Fiskars. I guess that leaves me solidly among that group that will not buy one of them until there is a 36”er available. The debate continues.
Ron
I’m 6’-4” and I can’t bend my knees or back in any comfortable manner (that I would want to repeat thousands of times) that would allow me to always hit the ground during any operator error episodes that might occur with a 28” handle. That said I would still like to try one of those miraculous Fiskars axes because I can’t imagine how it works that much better than the True Temper Super Splitter (Model: 1190700) since they both employ the same principals of physics. Someone in a previous thread said that they owned both the Fiskars and the True Temper and that the Fiskars was far superior. However I don’t recall that there were any specific reasons for this. Chock another one up for the supernatural Fiskars. I guess that leaves me solidly among that group that will not buy one of them until there is a 36”er available. The debate continues.
Ron
Bigg_Redd
Minister of Fire
quads said:
1) No need to be suspicious. None of us have received one thin dime from Fiskars. And is does work that much better.
2) YOU ALREADY HAVE A FISKARS SO QUIT BELLY ACHING ABOUT THE COST!
3) Re-read #2, then re-read #1
nocdpc
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I own a Fiskars 7854 SS. It is the bees knees I tell you. I am 5'9 and can get some good axe speed on it. I also own a 27ton splitter as well. The axe is a great backup and will save you time and effort in your manually splitting. Bottomline great axe.
Nonprophet
Minister of Fire
locust loco said:
Just goes to show you the difference between theory and practice..........
I'm 6'3" and I swing my Fiskars JUST FINE! I split on a 20" round/block and I've not had a single "close call" yet. Aim for the round--not your feet!! lol
Really people, all this talk about the shorter handle is ridiculous! You think a multi-million dollar company like Fiskars would put themselves at risk for a class-action lawsuit because of a 8" shorter axe handle?? Do you think they would'nt modify the design if they weren't selling them by the truckload as is?? Seriously, I think that peole just get so used to doing things one way that they REFUSE to try something different.....
Forget all the measuring and the theorizing......TRY ONE!! If you don't like it, take it back
Seriously, they've sold THOUSANDS of these things and there's dozens and dozens of people here who rave about them--myself included!!Again, I'm 6'3" (pretty darn tall!!) and I LOVE my Fiskars Super splitting axe! After hearing people complain about the shorter handle, and then seeing one in person I admit that I had my reservations about the shorter handle, but ALL THAT was put to rest in the first 5 minutes using this fine tool
If you split on a 18" tall block now with a 36" handle, well, go to 26" tall block with the 28" long handle and problem solved!!BTW, I had one of the True Temper splitting axes--I HATED IT!! Yes, it looks very similar to the Fiskars, but it performs nothing like the Fiskars! Mine rarely split on the first whack and when it didn't it would get stuck in the round something fierce--it would take a whole lot of effort to get it unstuck, just to swing it again and get stuck again!
NP
LLigetfa
Minister of Fire
I don't give a rat's patootie how anyone else chooses to split wood. I've no investment...financially, emotionally, nor any other -ally...in just how anyone else goes about getting that job done. I'm sort of mystified by how worked up some folks seem to get trying to convince somebody else to do something different from the way they're apparently comfortable doing it. I like my splitter and I like my axes. I hope everyone else likes the tools they have and use, as well. Rick
I am not sold on these fiskas either. I like my 6lb maul with my custom 38" handle much better. This gives me the perfect balance (for me) of speed and power. Unless I'm splitting really easy stuff I do not like a block any more than 6-8" of the ground. Anything shorter cuts short your swing .
EDit: Of course I am only 5' 8"
EDit: Of course I am only 5' 8"
madrone
Minister of Fire
quads
Minister of Fire
I have no doubt that no one here is receiving a dime from Fiskars. I was thinking more along the lines of "misery loves company" type of thing. Many people won't admit they bought something that they don't like, so they try very hard to convince themselves and others that it's not a mistake. That's the only part about it that sends up a red flag. For people that are content with their purchase, some go out of their way what seems like an unusual amount to try to convince everybody else that they are happy with their purchase.Bigg_Redd said:
Yes, I already own a Fiskars product and I would not recommend it to anyone. The handle is too short. It's too light for splitting. It doesn't even split kindling well because it gets hung up on that funky plastic handle on the outside of the head. How weird is that, putting the handle on the outside of the head? The best part about it is it came with it's own little plastic purse to carry it around in. I'm not exactly sure why it needs a plastic purse, but it's the best part of it.
So, since it's comparable to the Fiskars splitter then I would have to say that: 1) Due to the too short non-replaceable wrapped around the head handle, and the fact that I don't drag a splitting block around with me in the woods, I am not interested in purchasing anything with a handle shorter than my maul.
2) Due to it being far too light and sharp to prevent it from persistently sticking in the round, which is comparable to the Fiskars product I already own, I am not interested in purchasing anything lighter or sharper or that sticks more in the round than my maul.
3) Since I already own a Fiskars that is comparable to their splitter (and didn't even know it) that's the cheapest solution of all; buy nothing more!
My mind is finally made up! And to think how close I came to WASTING $45 on something like that.
BrowningBAR
Minister of Fire
BrowningBAR said:
Um....yeah. So, to conclude, I am happy with my purchase.
Everyone else, carry on.
WoodPorn
Minister of Fire
quads
Minister of Fire
Nonprophet
Minister of Fire
quads said:Bigg_Redd said:I have no doubt that no one here is receiving a dime from Fiskars. I was thinking more along the lines of "misery loves company" type of thing. Many people won't admit they bought something that they don't like, so they try very hard to convince themselves and others that it's not a mistake. That's the only part about it that sends up a red flag. For people that are content with their purchase, some go out of their way what seems like an unusual amount to try to convince everybody else that they are happy with their purchase.
Umm, are you serious?? That sure is a long way to go over $45 dollar splitter..........lol
So, since it's comparable to the Fiskars splitter then I would have to say that: 1) Due to the too short non-replaceable wrapped around the head handle, and the fact that I don't drag a splitting block around with me in the woods, I am not interested in purchasing anything with a handle shorter than my maul.
Umm, you could always use one of the rounds that you just bucked up in the woods as a splitting block............
Also, yes, the head/handle are not user replaceable, perhaps that's why Fiskar's offers a LIFETIME, UNCONDITIONAL WARRANTY?? I'm only aware of maybe two or three people who have actually broken one of these, and ALL of them got FREE REPLACEMENTS from the store they bought it at--NO QUESTIONS ASKED! If you're aware of somebody who did damage/break one and NOT get a FREE REPLACEMENT from/through Fiskars, please let us know!
2) Due to it being far too light and sharp to prevent it from persistently sticking in the round, which is comparable to the Fiskars product I already own, I am not interested in purchasing anything lighter or sharper or that sticks more in the round than my maul.
Ummm, you've never used one--so how can you conclude that it will "persistently stick in the round???" It sounds like "contempt prior to investigation" to me! lol I use mine pretty much every day. On those rare occasions where it does get stuck, the head design and the material that the head is coated with mean that a light rocking action is all that is needed to free the head 99% of the time. My 8lb maul on the other hand, when it did get stuck, it was a BEAR to get unstuck!!
Lastly, the Fiskars that you show pictured is an AXE, not a SPLITTING AXE. Different purpose--different design.
kbrown
Feeling the Heat
Some of these posts are getting a little out of hand here...there should be no hard feelings about why someone will or will not try or buy the Fiskars. It's simply personal choice. That's what makes life so great! There isn't just ONE axe or ONE maul that we all are forced to buy or use. Yes, I really like my Fiskar's but it wouldn't stop me from trying another type should it get the type of reviews that the Fiskar's gets. Originally this post started out as a request on which Fiskars to buy and it seems to have turned into a heated debate on Fiskars versus the rest of the world. I personally think that if you have not tried one, own one or thinking of trying one, that this is NOT the thread for you and should simply move on and let members express their reviews and opinions of the Fiskars products so another member can make an educated choice.
Now then, lets get back to our program already in progress......
Now then, lets get back to our program already in progress......
Bigg_Redd
Minister of Fire
quads said:I have no doubt that no one here is receiving a dime from Fiskars. I was thinking more along the lines of "misery loves company" type of thing. Many people won't admit they bought something that they don't like, so they try very hard to convince themselves and others that it's not a mistake. That's the only part about it that sends up a red flag. For people that are content with their purchase, some go out of their way what seems like an unusual amount to try to convince everybody else that they are happy with their purchase.Bigg_Redd said:
Yes, I already own a Fiskars product and I would not recommend it to anyone. The handle is too short. It's too light for splitting. It doesn't even split kindling well because it gets hung up on that funky plastic handle on the outside of the head. How weird is that, putting the handle on the outside of the head? The best part about it is it came with it's own little plastic purse to carry it around in. I'm not exactly sure why it needs a plastic purse, but it's the best part of it.
So, since it's comparable to the Fiskars splitter then I would have to say that: 1) Due to the too short non-replaceable wrapped around the head handle, and the fact that I don't drag a splitting block around with me in the woods, I am not interested in purchasing anything with a handle shorter than my maul.
2) Due to it being far too light and sharp to prevent it from persistently sticking in the round, which is comparable to the Fiskars product I already own, I am not interested in purchasing anything lighter or sharper or that sticks more in the round than my maul.
3) Since I already own a Fiskars that is comparable to their splitter (and didn't even know it) that's the cheapest solution of all; buy nothing more!
My mind is finally made up! And to think how close I came to WASTING $45 on something like that.
'zat a chopping axe?
My bad.
quads
Minister of Fire
Sorry guys, my mind is already made up. Which also means I won't be spending money on the Fiskars sharpener being discussed in another thread, which has turned into a joke thread about cutting your shins. Wow, sure glad I won't be joining the Fiskars fanatics. Whew.
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