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chrisasst said:

Hanging sheetrock....

I have slightly over 9' high walls. rooms length is about 36' not deducting for 2 windows that are about 80 x 54 each..

question 1..do I hang vertical or horizontal? I have researched alot and most say horizontal, but vertical can be done...if I hang vertical I could get 4 x 10 sheets and trim those. ( which is what was suggested to me by my father in law..

Or do I hang horizontal

also, are you supposed to sheetrock the ceiling first?

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If the studs are all dead on I would go vertical...Its easier to hind a crooked wall when hung horizontal.....So it just depends on what you got.

EatenByLimestone said:

Horizontal and ceiling first.

Matt

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agree 100% horizontal will hide all the bows in the wall and it adds up to less finishing of tape joints
one horizontal stripe vs alot of vertical stripes

If you can get to a real drywall supply house you can get 54 inch wide sheets and lay them down. That way you wont have to put a strip in the middle or the top. Always do the ceiling first. Be sure to use screws, not nails. You can also rent a drywall lift for the ceiling.

We've been renovating the house one room at a time and while we've hung some horizontally (and it seems as though most folks do), most of the rock we've put up is vertical since it works for us and our low ceilings . . . definitely put the ceiling up first.

Hmm, I'd give Mike Holmes a call; lemme see if I can google up a phone number for ya..........

mikeyny said:

Always do the ceiling first.

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Why so?

Ceiling first tight into the corner and then you shove the wall rock up against the lid to hold the corners tight and to cause an overlap in the corner which will keep the joint consistent and hidden.

The sides hold up the edges of the top.

mikeyny said:

If you can get to a real drywall supply house you can get 54 inch wide sheets and lay them down.

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Where do you get those? I feel pretty stupid for all the 1 foot strips I have put up on 9' walls.

EatenByLimestone said:

Horizontal and ceiling first.

Matt

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This is the right way to do it.

most drywall supply houses stock 54 inch boards. look in your yellow pages or google drywall supply for your area. It is a bit heavier but its worth it.

Chris, I've had good luck with these guys if you don't find someone in Cortland. They are just off 81 on the south side of Syracuse.

http://www.gypsumbymccarthy.com/default.asp

menards carrys 54" board if you have one of those around.

BeGreen said:

They get joined in a wire nut with a pigtail for the screw or use a grounding wirenut that allows one wire to pass through for the screw. Ideal makes these as well as fancy wire nuts that have the ground screw pigtail already attached.

http://www.idealindustries.com/products/wire_termination/twist-on/wingtwist_grounding.jsp
http://www.idealindustries.com/products/wire_termination/twist-on/term-a-nut_grounding.jsp

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That second one is totally cheating.

Pigtail, of course, means a length of ground attached to the grounding screw, and then attached to all others with a wire nut. Make sure your wire nuts are the right size for the number of wires and gauge.

If you're over 9' you're SOL with the horizontal, how picky is the wife? maybe you'll get away with vertical.

If you haven't done the cieling yet and you're not going to spring for a lift, you can use about a 3' 2x6 block to hold up one side of the rock so you only have to hold the 5,000 lbs of the other side of that 4'x12' type X. For the drywall on the edge of the cieling you screw the block to the wall in the middle of where the sheet will go. for the next piece you put two or three screws though the middle of the 2x6 and right up tight to the last piece of rock and leave it loose so the next sheet will slide in. Hope that didn't confuse you too much

Highbeam said:

Ceiling first tight into the corner and then you shove the wall rock up against the lid to hold the corners tight and to cause an overlap in the corner which will keep the joint consistent and hidden.

The sides hold up the edges of the top.

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Interesting. You guys seem pretty sure of this since you're all in agreement.

An old timer with about fifty years hanging rock and taping told me to always leave a slight gap in the corners. He filled the gap up with the tape in a way that was flawless. He said he always hated it when he didn't hang the rock and had to tape behind someone who fit the rock to perfection, made it a lot harder for him to get straight looking corners. I happened to be the guy he was following up with the taping on this job (my basement), which is how I found out about this. The joints he did his way came out better looking to my eye.