Sedore stoves - never seen before

A quote from the FAQs:

"What ratings or certifications does the Sedore Stove have?

The Sedore Stove is UL approved in the USA. At this time the Sedore has an Exempt rating from the EPA. That simply means the Sedore was too unique for the EPA's testing to get an accurate reading. "


Also, the FAQ about "how long the stove has been made" is answered by saying it was invented in Canada 30 years ago and the design was recently improved. That doesn't answer the question! That says it was invented 30 years ago...there may never have been another one made!

They also say it's about the size of a washing machine...a stylish addition to any living room!

It's EPA exempt, but can anyone find an efficiency percentage anywhere?

I like the way sparks are flying out into the room in their ad.

They have a users forum on Yahoo, and I guess they will burn about anything. From wet "stuff" to corn. There is a vid on Youtube showing someone burning some nasty stuff in it with I believe WVO if I recall correctly. Seems its classified as a downdraft design.
Aw what the heck I took the time to find a couple links
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SedoreUSA/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5Ndp9tVIOU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb83h6kts7o
http://visionstonestoves.blogspot.com/
http://forum.iburncorn.com/viewtopic.php?t=6852&highlight=sedore
Some ppl have been heating water with them too. Hope this helps

Couple of observations on the FAQ's


1- Can I burn animal manure?- Wow, I have a lifetime supply of fuel just down the street- no need to spend all that time c/s/s
2- Recommend burning at a minimum 300 degrees, but bring it up to 800 degrees every so often to clear creosote out of the furnace and stack---are they recommending burning out creosote aka chimney fire?

Interesting unit.

Does this make anyone else nervous??? Creosote dripping down the pipe a couple of weeks after install (in one video). Running the stove full bore with the lid up to prove it's a down draft???? A list group with a few posters all having problems that you would not find with a conventional stove??? UL listed, but it has no electrics, so it was put on a list??? Non-EPA certified cause they don't know what to do with it???? (Seems there are more than a few down-draft stoves that are certified, right?)

I've been looking at new multi-fuel stoves that could handle chips and sawdust, but this stove worried me when I saw it a few years ago, and it still does.

If it is so great, why are there no owners and champions on this forum????

Sorry I'm a bit late to this party, but I'll post anyway since I have experience with one of these stove/furnaces.
My grandfather bought two of them direct from the Sedores in Ontario in the early-mid 1980's. Looking at the website they look exactly like the model 2000, though the design may have been tweeked a bit since then. He gave one to my dad & one to my uncle. Each installed them that year in their uninsulated basements & had MANY years of good service from them. My uncle bought an EPA fireplace insert about 5 years ago and stopped using the Sedore as he could never move the heat out of the basement very well.
My dad is just thinking he'll get a new stove for next season as the firebox on his is burning out after nearly 30 years heating his house (~2,700sf ranch) with the Sedore. He did replace the baffle once with a stainless steel baffle that he made. I don't think he ever burned green woodchips fresh from the snowbank mixed with fryer oil lol, but he does burn kinda old-school. Cuts & splits dead standing or dead downed wood in the fall, throws it in an enclosed room under the patio & burns it that winter. Rarely checks or cleans the tile chimney. Run like that the stove was a beast. The self-feeding design really does work and along with the size of the firebox it gives burn times of 24+ hours. Starting is easy. Ash cleanout is easy. The down/cross-draft works too & smoke stays out of the living space.
Our stove had no secondary air and I don't see the new ones having it either. There was no gasket on the ash cleanout door and the gasket on the lid probably didn't seal very tight either.
IMO the corrugated sides likely do little to nothing for air circulation... as the website states, but likely do help to keep it from overfiring as there's more surface area to dissipate heat from & a lot of heat does come out through the walls since the fire burns down low in the box.
I personally would not buy one since they are butt-ugly and it seems to me the only reason they are EPA exempt is because they fit the leaky stove loophole, but my dad on the other hand, is looking to buy another one. Maybe I can convince him to rig pre-heated secondary air behind the baffle...

Edit, oh, forgot to mention that we also cooked on the stove many times when power was out. It sure has a nice big stovetop for that!

Just think of the possibilities, with the stoves unique ability to burn manure, one could preform a simple modification, to create the ultimate perpetual heating appliance.
Installation of a properly configured cat. ;-)

At this time the Sedore has an Exempt rating from the EPA. That simply means the Sedore was too unique for the EPA’s testing to get an accurate reading.

In other words, it used to much air to be classified as a wood stove so it is EPA exempt I'm guessin?

Hurry up and order now for the summer they say.

Good for them