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525fury

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Jan 13, 2011
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Smyrna, TN
Newbie here! I have been reading a LOT on this forum, great info.
Looks like I am going to be purchasing my first wood stove, going with the Jotul F600 Firelight.
I like the side loading door, and it was the clincher, as how I have to position the stove, it will work best and a right hinged front door stove would be in the way.

I have a two story, 3100 sq foot brick home, built in 2000, located in Smyrna, Tennessee. I am installing the stove right in the center of the house, in a 20' x 20' great room, 12' ceilings, in a corner.
I hope to get the most heat everywhere based on this location, including upstairs. I will be suplimenting the propane furnace, trying to save some money on fuel costs. When burning the stove, I would like for it to head the majority of the house.

Question: I am planning for the hearth, and will be installing porcelin tile, on top of 1/4" fiber board, which will sit right on top of the sub-floor, then the Jotul on top of the tile. I can not find anywhere, stating that this will be a problem, and hopefully will shield the subfloor (Andvantech OSB and wood joists) properly.
1.) Will this be OK to sit the Jotul on?
2.) Does the bottom of this stove warm the floor?
3.) Should I buy the rear shield and blower? Or should I wait to see how it does, then possibly buy later if needed?
4.) The local dealer wants $2790 for the stove only. Is this a fair price? Would I be able to buy it online someplace else cheaper?

Thanks for the info. I am wanting to pull the trigger in the next few days!
 
1. As long as your hearth is an appropriate size, the F600 needs only ember protection - you're fine
2. I have the F500 and use the included bottom shield - with ash in there it gets only a little warm underneath. It gets pretty warm out front though
3. No, very few people here would recommend it. You're better off with fans blowing cold air into the stove room
4. Don't think you can buy the F600 online - call a couple of other places and see if they will do you a deal for cash

And, most importantly: Welcome....
 
For me, the blower makes a huge difference in total heat moved, but I have a basement install so I need plenty.
 
Typical corner installations are a no-no with this unit.
Are you going to have your install inspected?
If so, you will have to get the side-door locking kit,
unless you meet the 36" clearance specified in the
installation manual:

8.7 Side Door Lock Kit
Use of the Side Door is prohibited in any Corner installation
or Alcove installation in which the door is closer than 36†to a
combustible wall. Kit 155850 is available specifically for the Jøtul
F 600 for use in these cases. With installation, it locks the door
latch in a closed position.


You may wish to re-think your install...
 
Missed the corner part - good job Daksy - tell us more about the 'corner' (pics?)
 
Yep, that's why we didn't get an F500. You need clearance for the open door and heat of the exposed, open fire. But if the right side corner is a short wall to an large open passageway, then maybe?
 
Wow! I missed that part to.

I have the pdf manual open in front of me downloaded from the Jotul website, it clearly states that the stove can be installed in the corner, while maintaining clearance of 13" from each rear corner of the stove from each wall.
Why would the single side door require minimum 36" then?
I could see maintaining 13" from the wall when the side door is in the open position, as it would be hot.
36" seems insane to me just for the door, when the entire back corner of the stove can be only 13" away.

Does any other F600 owner have theirs installed in a corner and would like to comment?????
 
I will try and post a picture of the planned install area tomorrow, and see what you guys think I should do.
Or what stove to get!
 
1.- yes but plan more
2.- no
3. - wait cost same later
4.-sounds good gave that for a f-500 oslo several months ago.

And when I say plan more might I suggest, soapstone tiles, I know you have read about the soapstone stoves retaining heat, Well my soapstone hearth does the same, I was just in a hurry so many more things I could have done with this.
 
525fury said:
Wow! I missed that part to.

I have the pdf manual open in front of me downloaded from the Jotul website, it clearly states that the stove can be installed in the corner, while maintaining clearance of 13" from each rear corner of the stove from each wall.
Why would the single side door require minimum 36" then?
I could see maintaining 13" from the wall when the side door is in the open position, as it would be hot.
36" seems insane to me just for the door, when the entire back corner of the stove can be only 13" away.

Does any other F600 owner have theirs installed in a corner and would like to comment?????

If you don't use the side door then no problem. Just leave it locked. Otherwise, look at other nice big stoves that have front or top loading. That's how we ended up with the PE T6. The Quadrafire Isle Royale was on the short list, but it was a bit too close on clearances for our corner install.
 
I have taken some pictures of the proposed area for my new stove.
It will be a corner mount, with the front angled at 45 degrees so we can view the fire when burning.
The stove could be mounted straight, not at an angle, but we could not see the fire then. Bummer.

I have attached three pictures. There is masking tape on the carpet, that shows the outline of a Jotul F600, both straight and at a 45 angle.
An overview shot, shows the stairs close by, the hardwood foyer. The room that the stove is going is the great room, 20' x 20' with 12' ceiling.
I have taped off the proposed porcelain tile that will take up the entire corner.
We were really wanting the Jotul F600 so we could side load it, as the wood will be positioned to the right of the stove.
If not J600, the stove will have to be left hinge, so the door swings out to the left, so the door will not be in the way when loading, as we plan on placing the box with wood on the right side of the tile next to the end table.

The issue is placing the F600 in a corner installation, and not keeping the side door 36" away from the wall. This is really not possible, as it would stick too far out into the room. Not even sure why the manual lists a corner installation.

What do you guys think?
The only other stoves that I like and have the left hinged door are the Napoleon 1900 Pedestal, and Quadrafire 5700. Any others that I should be considering?
Which is the best stove?

Thanks much!
 

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I am not a big fan of a stove or hearth projecting into a traffic area. This may take some rethinking. In our livingroom, we went for a complete change and reversed the room layout. It actually turned out much better than the original plan that had been in place for many decades. I would try to be open minded and think about putting the stove in another location in this room or another. If this is the only location then I would go for a shallower hearth, stove parallel to the wall and a bit further away from the little stub wall. You will still see the fire, just not straight on.

The other thing to think about is whether this location is better for a convective stove. That would provide closer clearances. Perhaps take a look at the new Jotul Rangeley as an example.
 
If you put the f-600 in at a 45 angle not sure you would have room to open the side door because of the wall I wanted the f-600 but the side door was on wrong side to fit my hearth so I went with f-500 which has side door on opposite side.
If you don't already have a chimney then that does't look like a good place for one.
 
I definitely concur with BeGreen - I really think that this is a bad place for the stove. Someone will touch it, brush up against it, place something down on it...

My children (maybe you don't have kids, or never have any visit) know to never go on the hearth. In this situation, you are forcing people near the stove.

Can you post other pics of the room or a floor plan - why are choosing to put the stove there?
 
I chose that location because it is near the center of the house, and I thought heat would be better distributed, including upstairs.
Good points you have made. Putting the stove anywhere else, would really screw up the seating arrangement in that room.
Uuuuggggggg.
 
I certainly understand that, but you don't need to worry about it. My stove is about 15 feet from the stairs, with an open door in the way. The heating never goes on upstairs. We do have small floor fans blowing cold air into the stove room on cold days to aid movement. While moving the furniture will be a pain, it will also allow the stove to become the focus of this room.
 
Here are two other shots of the room.
I have a hearth room that is open to the kitchen in the other room; The stove could go in there, but it would probably get way too hot in there and the heat would have a hard time making it to the rest of the house.
 

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There's the solution. The stove doesn't need to go in the fireplace, unless you want to install an insert, which is an option to consider. It can sit in front of the fireplace so that the heat is in the room. That would require an extension of the current hearth, but it would be far less intrusive than the other plan. What's the height of the fireplace opening above the floor?
 
Tricky room with all the doorways/glass. I would think about the following options:

1. Move it further down that one flat wall - i.e. 6ft from where it is now
2. Put the stove in front of the fireplace - and rear vent (or go up, then in) - any reason to not use the current flue?

If you do 2, you could think about blocking off this door (if feasible for access/heat distribution), or making it a foot or so narrower.
 
Two thoughts:

1) putting stove in front of existing hearth would allow for side door on right;

2) putting stove where you originally propose would put hearth pad in line of traffic into room. This would create a tripping hazard, in which case someone might fall toward the stove and get severly burned.
 
DanCorcoran said:
Two thoughts:

1) putting stove in front of existing hearth would allow for side door on right;

2) putting stove where you originally propose would put hearth pad in line of traffic into room. This would create a tripping hazard, in which case someone might fall toward the stove and get severly burned.

I'd never noticed the f600 had the door on the opposite side to the Oslo.
 
The existing fireplace is a ventless, with propane logs. There is no flue or chimney there.
I was wanting to keep these, so I could burn propane when it is cheap (or did not want to mess with the stove) or burn wood when propane was high.
 
Never knew you could do ventless propane...

So, in that case, the flat wall would be my choice if you don't want to rip it out. That said, if you catch the bug (like most of us), you'll find the propane gets very little use once the stove is in, so if there was a chance of running a flue there, I would consider it.
 
DanCorcoran said:
Two thoughts:

1) putting stove in front of existing hearth would allow for side door on right;

2) putting stove where you originally propose would put hearth pad in line of traffic into room. This would create a tripping hazard, in which case someone might fall toward the stove and get severely burned.

My plan is/was to install porcelain tile, over fiber board for the hearth. It should match very closely to the existing carpet.
Sized the way it is laid out now, you would have to take about two steps on tile, between the carpet and hardwood though, which is one of the main walkway into and out of the room. Hmmmmm......
 
CarbonNeutral said:
DanCorcoran said:
Two thoughts:

1) putting stove in front of existing hearth would allow for side door on right;

2) putting stove where you originally propose would put hearth pad in line of traffic into room. This would create a tripping hazard, in which case someone might fall toward the stove and get severly burned.

I'd never noticed the f600 had the door on the opposite side to the Oslo.

I have no knowledge of the side door position, I just inferred right side based on the responses above. If wrong, sorry...
 
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