New Clydesdale owner with a few questions and looking for tips

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donniedarko

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Dec 7, 2011
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West Chester, PA
Hi all. I had a Hearthstone Clydesdale installed a little over a week ago. I've had a few fires, but I'm waiting for it to get a little colder to start it up again. Temps have been in the high 50's during the day and low 40's/high 30's at night. I've read a lot on these boards, but I figured I'd share my technique with you all and see if anyone has a pointers. I start with some fatwood and go outside and find a branch for kindling. I've found I need to load the firebox fairly full with the kindling to get the fire going on account of the soapstone taking the heat. Once I get the kindling going, I load a couple small pieces of wood in there and keep the air control open. Then after those logs catch, I'd load it up all the way and leave the door cracked for a bit to get the wood burning. I was leaving the air control full open, trying to get up to ~400 degrees, but I wasn't able to. From reading this website, I now know that I would be better off incrementally closing the air control after the fire is going good. Also, I realized that I'm not able to get a very good temperature reading from my magnetic thermometer. I think it was reading low since I was only seeing temps of ~200 degrees but the secondaries were going, glass was clean, and no smoke was coming from the chimney. I had the thermometer on the side of the stove, near the top. I moved it to the top front, just above the door and I think I was able to get a more accurate reading. So my first question to other Clydesdale owners is what kind of thermometer do you use, and where do you put it. I think according to the instructions, it is supposed to go on the top, underneath the grill. But the magnetic thermometer is too thick to fit under the grill.

Another mistake I realized I was making was I was constantly tossing more wood in. Then I read that I should be letting the burn cycle complete before adding wood. I think this tip will really help.

So, another thing I was wondering is how I should control my heat pump. I recognize that I will not be able to heat my entire house using solely the Clydesdale. The house is probably 2,100 or 2,200 sq. ft. The Clydesdale is in the family room, which is open to the upstairs, where there are three bedrooms. Two other bedrooms are on the first floor through a hallway behind the Clydesdale. If I run the Clydesdale without the heat pump fan, the upstairs bedrooms get too hot and most of the first floor rooms are comfortable, with the exception of the two bedrooms behind the Clydesdale, which are too cold. If I run the heat pump fan then the entire house is a comfortable temperature, but I do seem to lose a lot of the heat from the Clydesdale because the heat pump needs to turn on fairly often. Both installers that we received install quotes from recommended that we put in a ceiling fan in the room with the stove and run it in the summer direction to push the hot air down and keep it on the first floor. That seems to make sense to me, but I was wondering what other people think.

Other beginner questions I have is where does the air come in on the Clydesdale? I see the main one in the front center near the door, but I thought I read somewhere that there is other air vents on the Clydesdale. And how do you know if you have a good draft? Has anyone here had their draft measured?

Thanks for reading. I know this is a lot, I just hope it all makes sense! :coolsmile:
 
I am curious what wood you are using and how dry it is. I'm local to you and also have a Clydesdale. I'd like to see your setup and take a look at the fire wood. I just picked up a moisture meter today.
 
I bought a cord off of a guy that swore it was seasoned. It's a mix of types of wood. I've been trying to determine how seasoned it is. I've ordered a moisture meter, it should be here any day now. The wood sounds hollow when you bang two pieces together. But I don't see any cracks on the ends. I also know the guy I bought it from doesn't keep it covered because it rained the day before he delivered it and he told me it was seasoned, but let it dry out for a couple days since it had just rained. I figure it's probably partially seasoned. Since you're local, any recommendations for where to buy my next cord?
 
It's a little late in the season. I called my last supplier and he never got back.
 
HELLO WEST CHESTER,

I am also from West Chester . I just bought my Clydesdale from the place on 202 just south of route 1.

Did you install yours flush with the surround or did you leave it out? Also, why finish did you get?

Bob
 
With regard to starting a fire in a cold stove, I load it full of wood and use newspaper knots (tied double sheets) to get it started. I leave the door cracked until the fire is going wll, close the door, and then start shutting down the primary air after 10-20 minutes, depending on how the fire is going. I know my wood is dry because I process it myself, and about half of it is white pine, so starting a fire is very easy. If you're wood is mostly hardwood, you may need kindling or one of the commercial products to make it easier to get a fire going in a cold stove.
 
Banthony said:
HELLO WEST CHESTER,

I am also from West Chester . I just bought my Clydesdale from the place on 202 just south of route 1.

Did you install yours flush with the surround or did you leave it out? Also, why finish did you get?

Bob

202 South of Route 1? Are you sure? That's Chadd's Ford Fireside Shop, they don't sell Hearthstone stoves. (Otherwise, I would have bought from them.) I bought mine from Salter's in Eagleville.

I wanted the Clydesdale pulled out as far as possible. I like the look and I've got a steamer on top. (It just barely fits though.) I also went with the matte black finish. What about you?
 
And here are some pictures.
 

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donniedarko said:
Banthony said:
HELLO WEST CHESTER,

I am also from West Chester . I just bought my Clydesdale from the place on 202 just south of route 1.

Did you install yours flush with the surround or did you leave it out? Also, why finish did you get?

Bob

202 South of Route 1? Are you sure? That's Chadd's Ford Fireside Shop, they don't sell Hearthstone stoves. (Otherwise, I would have bought from them.) I bought mine from Salter's in Eagleville.

I wanted the Clydesdale pulled out as far as possible. I like the look and I've got a steamer on top. (It just barely fits though.) I also went with the matte black finish. What about you?

I bought it from Comfort Home and Heart. They use to be in the old barn on route 1 but a couple years ago they moved to 202 .
I went with them because of their installation process. Some dealers were not able to convince me that their process was of sufficient quality. BUT.......I did go out to Salters last night just to get a peek at something else. While there I talked to one of their salesman. They also have a VERY good installation process. I think you still did well with them.
 
donniedarko said:
Hi all. I had a Hearthstone Clydesdale installed a little over a week ago. I've had a few fires, but I'm waiting for it to get a little colder to start it up again. Temps have been in the high 50's during the day and low 40's/high 30's at night. I've read a lot on these boards, but I figured I'd share my technique with you all and see if anyone has a pointers. I start with some fatwood and go outside and find a branch for kindling. I've found I need to load the firebox fairly full with the kindling to get the fire going on account of the soapstone taking the heat. Once I get the kindling going, I load a couple small pieces of wood in there and keep the air control open. Then after those logs catch, I'd load it up all the way and leave the door cracked for a bit to get the wood burning. I was leaving the air control full open, trying to get up to ~400 degrees, but I wasn't able to. From reading this website, I now know that I would be better off incrementally closing the air control after the fire is going good. Also, I realized that I'm not able to get a very good temperature reading from my magnetic thermometer. I think it was reading low since I was only seeing temps of ~200 degrees but the secondaries were going, glass was clean, and no smoke was coming from the chimney. I had the thermometer on the side of the stove, near the top. I moved it to the top front, just above the door and I think I was able to get a more accurate reading. So my first question to other Clydesdale owners is what kind of thermometer do you use, and where do you put it. I think according to the instructions, it is supposed to go on the top, underneath the grill. But the magnetic thermometer is too thick to fit under the grill.

Another mistake I realized I was making was I was constantly tossing more wood in. Then I read that I should be letting the burn cycle complete before adding wood. I think this tip will really help.

So, another thing I was wondering is how I should control my heat pump. I recognize that I will not be able to heat my entire house using solely the Clydesdale. The house is probably 2,100 or 2,200 sq. ft. The Clydesdale is in the family room, which is open to the upstairs, where there are three bedrooms. Two other bedrooms are on the first floor through a hallway behind the Clydesdale. If I run the Clydesdale without the heat pump fan, the upstairs bedrooms get too hot and most of the first floor rooms are comfortable, with the exception of the two bedrooms behind the Clydesdale, which are too cold. If I run the heat pump fan then the entire house is a comfortable temperature, but I do seem to lose a lot of the heat from the Clydesdale because the heat pump needs to turn on fairly often. Both installers that we received install quotes from recommended that we put in a ceiling fan in the room with the stove and run it in the summer direction to push the hot air down and keep it on the first floor. That seems to make sense to me, but I was wondering what other people think.

Other beginner questions I have is where does the air come in on the Clydesdale? I see the main one in the front center near the door, but I thought I read somewhere that there is other air vents on the Clydesdale. And how do you know if you have a good draft? Has anyone here had their draft measured?

Thanks for reading. I know this is a lot, I just hope it all makes sense! :coolsmile:

This is my second season with my Clydesdale in a 2000 sq ft ranch-style home. I have had the stove up to 600F, so I know it is capable of achieving that temp. I've got an OMEGA magnetic dial gauge, mounted as far under the grill as it can go. It will not fit directly under the grill- too thick. I burn only very dry wood - spruce and Douglas fir mostly.

The Clydesdale is easy to start. I put in about five or six splits and pack them with newspaper. I adjust the air damper to its full open position and light the newspaper off and leave the door open about 1/2 an inch - just long enough to get the splits burning - 10 to 15 minutes. Then I close the stove door fully while leaving the damper fully open - for a total of about 20 to 30 minutes. By then the splits are all burning well. Then I close the damper about 1/2 the way in. I do not add any more wood until the auto fan kicks on and the wood has burned down a considerable amount. Then I load with several more splits. Once these are going I close the damper 3/4 ths of the way in. By then the stove temp has increased to about 400 F. Its takes quite some time to get to 600F due to all the soapstone and cast iron.

Do you have a block off plate on your set-up? These help to minimize heat loss to the chimney. An overhead fan would help to circulate room air and make your heat pump cycle less frequently. I don't have a heat pump so I don't know what to expect from them. We heat with natural gas. When I have the Clydesdale going, the thermostats never call for heat.

Good luck with your Clydesdale.
 
I just purchased a Clydesdale this fall, and am learning mine as well. I had mine installed flush because it is close to a high traffic area. I don't think the installation position makes much of a difference on the heat produced. Our Clydesdale is doing a great job heating most of our 3000 sf center chimney cape. It's great to see the oil level not go down in the basement!

I only have to cold start my stove when I clean out the ashes, so that's only been a half a dozen times or so, but so far it's been very easy to do. When I split up my wood during the summer, I saved a lot of the splitting debris to use as kindling, and it works great. I just knot up 4 or 5 pieces of newspaper and put the kindling on top. I put the air intake fully open and leave the door cracked open. I let the kindling get fully engaged and then put on the wood I want to burn. I leave the door open a few minutes to help the wood catch. I then close the door and monitor the fire and adjust the air intake to get a nice steady flame.

I don't have a thermometer for my stove. I find it's easy to tell when your stove is optimally burning, but it would be interesting to have a thermometer set up and see the temps.

Good luck with your Clydesdale, so far I am loving mine. As with everyone else, the wood is the key. My wood for next year was stacked last summer and fall, and I'll work on 2014's supply this spring. I love having a nice fire going with the intake fully closed. You know you're burning some good wood then!

Tom
 
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