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  1. BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    7,103 posts
    Doylestown, PA
    Only got up to 47 here today.
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  2. BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    7,103 posts
    Doylestown, PA
    I'll give that a try. I'l weigh and do some measuring next time I use large slabs. It will give a better understanding as to what I am working with.
  3. BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    7,103 posts
    Doylestown, PA
    One man's large is another man's small when it comes to splits. But a pound is a pound. It gives some people a better idea as to how much wood you are actually throwing into the stove.
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  4. BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    7,103 posts
    Doylestown, PA
    This was actually a north/south load with one split in the back laying e/w for support. The large slabs would not fit e/w.
  5. BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    7,103 posts
    Doylestown, PA
    Start looking at the end of February through the end of June. The last few years the price has dropped to $649 with free shipping.
  6. BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    7,103 posts
    Doylestown, PA
    You are correct, though. During colder temps, having the stove sit at 250-290 degrees for a few hours would not provide enough heat to maintain temps for most homes. Today's highs were 47. Up until noon we were below 40. Kind of a shoulder season day.
  7. velvetfoot Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2005
    4,863 posts
    Sand Lake, NY
    I know. It's unbelievable how easy it is to heat the place with our 2.3 ft3 insert now that the outside temp is 37F. It was REAL difficult when it was -6. I wish I too had a big freestanding stove.
  8. webby3650 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 2, 2008
    2,054 posts
    southern Indiana
    Well I can say I got 24hrs out my King between reloads, But I didn't have a great experience. I loved the heat. But, I missed the beautiful fires, the clean glass and just plain getting to mess with the fire. I'm a fire bug and I love these things.
    I could have a furnace or a B-King? They both perform great, neither give a great fireview?, or let you mess with the fire. The 30 sounds good, so do other non-cat stoves. The cape Cod is kinda in the middle of the road! :cool:
  9. Woody Stover Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 25, 2010
    3,481 posts
    Southern IN
    That's half the fun of it! ::-)
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  10. bag of hammers Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 7, 2010
    612 posts
    Northern ON
    I wanna say "that's what my wife said" but I don't wanna incriminate myself...
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  11. BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    7,103 posts
    Doylestown, PA
    One man's small is another man's "I was in the pool!"
  12. DexterDay Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 11, 2010
    9,160 posts
    NE Ohio

    4 cord?? I have been burnin mine 24/7 pretty much all year and I am at 2 cord!

    And as for the burn times. I can get 12 hrs of "usable" heat easily. No our stove top is not 450* like a King at 12 hrs, but 250* is usable heat.

    I have loaded at 10pm and not reloaded in the A.M., only to get home about 4-5pm and have enough coals to relight VERY easily. 18 hrs and enough coals to throw on a few smaller/med splits and walk away. Only to return 15 min later to a good fire.

    Sometimes it's not the stove, but the operator and the fuel :)
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  13. wkpoor Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 30, 2008
    1,843 posts
    Amanda, OH
    I'm curious on a couple points. I'm curious as to how much a 30 can hold and that # will determine just how efficient it is. Kinda like if I told you my 30" Elm was burning 12hrs but it has a 5.5 cuft fire box. Now I never pack it full but if I did then 12hrs might be expected from a large load of wood and not necessarily from an efficient stove.
    In the past when I've seen really good burn times it was going into a warm sunny high pressure day and thermal gains where doing most of the work. If its 20 degrees or below and 25mph winds ect. there just ain't going to be any long burns cause I'm reloading at 500 stove top which is roughly every 4-6hrs.
  14. pen Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2007
    6,096 posts
    N.E. Penna
    Sounds to me like you either need to keep the elms or else move up to a BKK.

    The 30 ain't going to do better in those situations
  15. wkpoor Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 30, 2008
    1,843 posts
    Amanda, OH
    From what I've read on here pushing a cat hard will only result in what I've got
  16. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,457 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Large splits are what I burn. My wife doesn't like them, too heavy. But I like the long steady burn they provide.
  17. bag of hammers Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 7, 2010
    612 posts
    Northern ON
    Coaxing a couple of those big knarly yellow birch uglies in for the night burn is also proving to give good results.
  18. BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    7,103 posts
    Doylestown, PA
    The Defiant and 30 can both take very large splits. But, what fits in one stove doesn't always fit in the other.
  19. rdust Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 9, 2009
    3,356 posts
    Michigan
    It's also a 4+ cubic foot stove, it should be able to have great heat after 12 hours. If I had a King I have no doubt I could go 24 hours between loads(or real close) even with the zero degree type temps we had last week. Not many stoves in the Kings league as far as size goes so it's not a fair comparison.

    The environment the stove is in means a lot, performance of the same stoves vary greatly on this site.
  20. HDRock Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 25, 2012
    1,256 posts
    Grand Blanc, Mi
    OK , so when every one talks about large splits, are ya talking 8" diameter and 20" long or what ???
    And is a 4" diameter considered a medium split ??
  21. HDRock Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 25, 2012
    1,256 posts
    Grand Blanc, Mi
    4 cords ?? Does your neighbor have a big house ??
  22. Huntindog1 Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 6, 2011
    1,053 posts
    South Central Indiana
    I am in the range of 8"-10" for large , 5"- 7" medium, 2" to 4" small.

    We all know splits are not perfect shapes that these numbers are approximate.

    Splits above 10" I dont know what to call those.

    Splits less than 2" Kindling

    Rounds , are a whole other beast, I just would like to split them if I can.
  23. oldspark Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 16, 2010
    5,117 posts
    North West Iowa
    The type of wood has sovething to do with how large I have my splits, very large pieces of Oak take a large bed of coals to get going but a large split of Green Ash, Cherry, Elm or Silver Maple will lite up much easier.
  24. HDRock Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 25, 2012
    1,256 posts
    Grand Blanc, Mi
    What ? Green ?
  25. velvetfoot Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 5, 2005
    4,863 posts
    Sand Lake, NY
    8 cubic feet! Wow!
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