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black oak?

Post in 'The Wood Shed' started by iceman, Aug 9, 2010.

  1. iceman

    iceman Minister of Fire

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    Never heard of it and don't see it on the chimney sweep online...what is it... any pics would be helpful and how is it btu wise
    Thanks

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  2. jstellfox

    jstellfox New Member

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    It is in the Red Oak family and very similar as far as btu burning and such. Black, Red and Scarlet Oak are all very much alike.
  3. quads

    quads Minister of Fire

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    That's what we have around here, and white oak. When I was a kid, all the old-timers called it red oak. I had never heard of black oak. Nowadays they say it's all black oak. Same trees as when I was a kid, different name.
  4. Battenkiller

    Battenkiller Minister of Fire

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    Some wood dealer just told me that our red oak is really black oak. He said true red oak has a reddish colored cambium layer. Don't know if it's true. Fact is, I'm beginning to question everything I thought I knew about wood species. Seems there is so much variation and hybridization going on that it's not as clear as we would like it to be. Bottom line - if it's real dense when it's dry, I like to burn it. ;-)
  5. oldspark

    oldspark Guest

    Northern Red Oak-Quercus rubra Linnaeus-Eastern Red Oak-Gray Oak

    Black Oak-Quercus velutina Lamark-Smooth Bark Oak,Quercitron, Yellow Oak, Yellowbark Oak

    Member of Red Oak family so BTU's are similar to RO
  6. Wood Duck

    Wood Duck Minister of Fire

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    I have both Red and Black Oaks growing in my yard, and both are common in forests here. They are very similar, but I think I can most of the time tell the trees apart just by the bark and the overall form of the tree. Red Oak has glossy ridges in the bark, Black has blockier bark. To be certain I have to look at details. The one sure way to tell them apart is to look at the mature buds in winter - Black Oak has hairy buds, Red oak has hairless buds. Black oak usually has thick, glossy leaves, while Red Oak usually has thinner, non-glossy leaves. The leaves are a bit tricky, I think.

    Around here Black Oak is more common, but in parts of PA I think Red Oak is more common. Both are widespread in PA. I think the wood seems almost identical.
  7. golfandwoodnut

    golfandwoodnut Minister of Fire

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    As everyone has said, black oak is member of the red oak family. Bark is very different, black oak is as it sounds, black rough bark. Red Oak, is much smoother, more silvery bark (almost the same shade as maple).
  8. jstellfox

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    bottom line is that if you don't know the difference to look at it, you also will not notice a difference burning it so its really all irrelevant. Just cut it, give it some time to dry and enjoy the heat.
  9. sauer

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    hilllbillys call radial tires "black oak"

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