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  1. djs_net Member

    joined: Nov 25, 2011
    178 posts
    CT
    I'm assuming it's not officially recommended to open the stove and scrape the burnpot when it's still hot, but is this a common practice for people who don't want to shut down for any length of time in the dead of winter?
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  2. whlago Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 30, 2011
    250 posts
    NW Connecticut
    My shutdown period (fans still running) usually allows for plenty of time for the stove to cool down. House cools down a couple degrees during the half hour plus cleaning but no biggie on Saturday when I should be doing all my chores and keeping warm anyway.
  3. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,723 posts
    Northwestern CT.
    I would just turn my bige to low for about 5 minutes to burn out some of the pellets and do a quick swipe with the supplied tool. Really just kind of scraped under the fire to clean the air holes out some. I couldn't drag too much out of the burnpot or it would go out on me. Closed the door and move the heat back up. I did it once a day and I could then go all week before I had to shutdown to clean. This was with Turmans and Spruce Pointes which are realy clean burning. Shoulders I was using Premier Appl hardwoods(similar to SC) which were a bit more ashy. I did the pot scrape 2x a day with them. In the AM before I headed out to work and just after dinner.
  4. briansol Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 18, 2009
    1,110 posts
    central ct
    I only scrape when i shut down to clean. Don't need to do it any more frequent than that.... i rarely have any build up on the burn pot.

    I generally turn it off after breakfast on a saturday. go do chores/etc. by noon time, im back and its cool and i clean it before lunch. turn it back on before the sun goes away.
  5. wil lanfear Feeling the Heat

    joined: May 10, 2008
    400 posts
    vermont
  6. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,439 posts
    Standish, ME
    I use adjustable angled pliers to lift the hot pot out of its receptacle so I can scrape out the crud with it still inside the firebox, then it gets dumped before it comes out onto the stone hearth pad for a real scraping.

    I can go from turn stove off to stove on and convection blower running in 40 minutes.
  7. Hoot23 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 28, 2012
    505 posts
    Alfred, Me
    I scrape the Harman every 3 days. Open the door, remove the ash in front of the pot, scrape real good, shut the door and continue enjoying the flame.
    SteveB likes this.
  8. djs_net Member

    joined: Nov 25, 2011
    178 posts
    CT
    My goal is to scrape/clean the burnpot daily since my stove runs much better that way, and clean it fully only once a week. Tonight was a trial run to see how quick I could do it with minimal down time. What I decided to do was turn the stove off and wait a few minutes for the active fire to go out. I then opened the door and quickly scraped the burnpot onto the floor of the stove, closed the door and restarted it. This method worked well and caused less than 10 minutes of down time. The only negative I can see from turning the stove off is that it needs to go through the ignition/start up phase but I don't think I can avoid this because I really need to scrape the burnpot clean for best results.

    I'd love to be able to scrape without shutting down but my stove is older and I don't think it's designed to do that. Comments?
  9. Hoot23 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 28, 2012
    505 posts
    Alfred, Me
    Not sure about your stove, but I'm supposed to do that with mine. I would think that scraping while hot wouldn't hurt it any. I think...
  10. subsailor Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 8, 2011
    1,315 posts
    Winthrop, Maine
    I scrape the ash out of mine twice a day no matter what setting it's on. Open the door, wait a couple of seconds for the flame to be sucked back in, scrape out the ash, close the door. Less than 10 seconds.
    gbreda, jjs777_fzr and P38X2 like this.
  11. oldmountvernon Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2011
    2,157 posts
    SE Mass
    what the heck is this pot scraping you all talking about ?;lol
  12. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,439 posts
    Standish, ME
    It is a daily occurrence with a number of stoves.

    I do my pot scrape out once a week when I clean my stove, so now you know how long my cleaning session takes from start of shutdown to finish and back to heat pouring out of the stove again.
  13. subsailor Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 8, 2011
    1,315 posts
    Winthrop, Maine
    Aren't you the guy that was complaining about bees nests growing in his stove?;lol
    Melissa220 and SmokeyTheBear like this.
  14. oldmountvernon Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2011
    2,157 posts
    SE Mass
    Heh it wasnt the stove, it was MWP and my fault for not changing the setting :p
  15. subsailor Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 8, 2011
    1,315 posts
    Winthrop, Maine
    You need to buy a Harman. You wouldn't have to worry about putting it on the right setting to get it to burn right.:p
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  16. oldmountvernon Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2011
    2,157 posts
    SE Mass
    all this talk about pot scraping up to twice a day gives me 2nd thoughts on installing the empress
  17. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,439 posts
    Standish, ME
    I only do a scraping when I clean my stove why the rest have to do it once a day is a mystery to me. ;hm
  18. subsailor Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 8, 2011
    1,315 posts
    Winthrop, Maine
    Just for the record, I don't have to scrape to pot. In fact, I almost think I get more heat out of the stove with a bed of ash in front of the fire. I just like the way the stove burns better with the ash scraped out.
  19. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,723 posts
    Northwestern CT.
    Breckwells problem is a tiny burnpot design. The older units were larger and didn't need a daily swish. But since breckwell redesigned it(more of a cost saver with less material IMHO). the new pot has so little surface area(which contains the air passages) you need to do this pretty much daily.
  20. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,439 posts
    Standish, ME
    Maybe a Binford Big Air Model 9999 combustion blower upgrade kit would take care of that issue ?
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  21. richkorn Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 28, 2008
    534 posts
    SE CT
    I do it all the time with stove running.
  22. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,723 posts
    Northwestern CT.
    So thats the model you stuffed in yours! Bout time you shared with the group! :p
  23. djs_net Member

    joined: Nov 25, 2011
    178 posts
    CT
    I have the older model Breckwell with the bigger burnpot. After about 24 hrs, the burnpot really needs to be cleaned or it fills up and doesn't burn nearly as well. I will upgrade the stove eventually, but I can't really complain since I bought it last year on CL for $500 (including the chimney liner) and it burns pretty darn well as long as I keep it clean.
  24. P38X2 Minister of Fire

    joined: Mar 11, 2012
    784 posts
    Jaffrey, NH
    I use the Subsailor method. Unless the pellets are crap and there's a huge ash dam there, I doubt it even makes a difference.

    It's an OCD thing for us Harman owners I think.
    gbreda, SteveB and mepellet like this.
  25. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,439 posts
    Standish, ME
    I always had this suspicion about you Harman folk.

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